[Vision2020] Another Answer to School Shootings . . .

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Thu Jan 3 15:40:51 PST 2013 

Don't you find it interesting that he posted as "Idaho Senate Candidate
Gresham Bouma"?

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

> Something tells me we haven't seen the end of Gresham Bouma.
>
> Hence, I started my Gresham Bouma scrapbook (complete with videos,
> sound-bites, photos, etc.) a couple years ago, which I will be more than
> glad to share publicly when he runs for office again and again and again
> and . . .
>
> Just to let you know that my scrapbook collection is not restricted to
> Gresham Bouma, I have several others going back several years, many of them
> right here locally.  Remember Peg Hamlett? JoAnn Mack?  John Weber?
>
> Call it a hobby.
>
>
> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares"
> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2013, at 2:24 PM, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I meant, we all should care what he thinks because he apparently has some
> political clout. Someone reminded me he only lost the last election by a
> two point margin.
>
> On Jan 3, 2013, at 12:34 PM, Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Winning A Republican Primary in Idaho is not necessarily a sign of
> intelligence, knowledge, honesty, compassion, and/or mental health.
>
> w.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> He won the last two Republican primaries.
>>
>>
>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Why do we care what Bouma thinks? I don't like Obamacare either. It is
>> simply a tax on people that cannot afford to give money to fraud artists
>> called insurance companies.
>>
>> Donovan J. Arnold
>>   *From:* Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
>> *To:* Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com>
>> *Cc:* viz <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 2, 2013 7:36 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Another Answer to School Shootings . . .
>>
>> What is the deal with the alleged connection between Obamacare and
>> (supposed) "corporate welfare to big pharma," as you say Scott? That is
>> clearly what he's getting at. I confess ignorance on this matter --
>> meaning, I have no idea whether there is a link between the two or not. Is
>> there a link? Does anyone know if the comment has any basis? Of course, big
>> pharma has been consistently helped by big government but that was true
>> before Obama and as far as I can tell both Dems and Repubs have been
>> guilty of this sin. Is there something in Obamacare that I've missed
>> suggesting that the situation is likely to get worse? Joe
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>  It's interesting that Bouma chooses to list his biases for his 'ideas'
>> on preventing massacres.  Vouchers = parents are allowed to send their kids
>> to schools with better security (and as an added bonus Bouma essentially
>> lists that the vouchers target teacher's unions).  And now, he pretty much
>> writes that preventing kids from being medicated will prevent shootings
>> (and as an added bonus, Obamacare is stopped and that thus corporate
>> welfare to big pharma would be curtailed).  This is pretty much the
>> worst spin I've ever seen put on anything.  If he continues in this vein,
>> I'm guessing that his next move will be '[insert any conservative cause]
>> will prevent school shootings because [insert any random bullshit] and as
>> an added bonus [insert underlying Biblical or financial justification]'.
>>
>>   From: thansen at moscow.com
>> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 13:41:58 -0800
>> To: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
>> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Another Answer to School Shootings . . .
>>
>> It should also be noted that those shooters, identified in the article
>> linked by Bouma's comment, wore under garments (so it has been reported
>> by a source best left un identified).  Could the donning of
>> undergarments have been a contributing factor in the commission of these
>> heinous murders?
>>
>> If so, Moscow, you can feel safe with me.  I haven't worn underwear since
>> 1968.
>>
>>
>> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
>>
>> "Moscow Cares"
>> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>>
>>  Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>>
>> On Jan 2, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  The article that Bouma refers to and his use of it provide nice
>> examples of fallacious reasoning. In the article, there is a list of school
>> shooters and then the claim that all of them (not all school shooters but
>> everyone on the list) happened to be prescribed some kind of medication,
>> though in some instances the medication is listed merely as "Med for
>> Depression." Then the claim that the medications are responsible and so we
>> should reject Obama-care!
>>
>> One fallacy is the confusion of correlation and causation. All the
>> shooters drank water as well but that doesn't mean that drinking water was
>> the cause of the shootings. One needs to establish at least "4 cells" of
>> information in order to make a case for a causal relation: How many took
>> the meds and became shooters? How many didn't take the meds and became
>> shooters? How many took the meds and didn't become shooters? How many
>> didn't take the meds and didn't become shooters? Correlation fallacies
>> focus on just one bit of this information, In this case, we don't really
>> even get the first cell of info since we don't know that the shooters took
>> the meds, just that they were prescribed medication (not sure how we
>> could know this latter point either, by the way) -- and a variety of medsto boot, some unknown or listed just as "Med for Depression."
>>
>> Today's logic lesson was brought to you by Starbucks coffee!
>>
>>  On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>  Does this message from Bouma auger a merging of Freeze Church ans
>> Christ Church?
>>
>> w.
>>
>>
>>  On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>>
>>  <image.jpeg>
>>
>> https://chumly.com/n/19166c9
>>
>> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
>>
>> "Moscow Cares"
>> http://www.moscowcares.com/
>>
>>  Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
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