[Vision2020] Hmmm . . .

Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
Wed Feb 20 08:48:15 PST 2013 

I have absolutely no problem with you packin' a fire extinguisher at your residence or jumper cables in your vehicle, Mr. Rumelhart.  In fact I encourage both . . . at least until fire extinguishers or jumper cables are responsible for 10,000+ wrongful deaths annually.

Ya know what I mean?  See what I'm sayin'?  Ya pickin' up what I'm layin' down?

Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .

"Moscow Cares"
http://www.MoscowCares.com
  
Tom "Proud to be a Filthy Liberal Scum" Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"There's room at the top they are telling you still 
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill 
If you want to be like the folks on the hill."

- John Lennon
 

On Feb 20, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I don't set the fire extinguisher outside because it's a rainy day and I'm not using the oven, so why have it easily available?
> 
> Be prepared, especially if there is a known possible threat in the area.  What's so shocking about that point of view I'll never understand.
> 
> Yeah, the attacker might just come in and give me good financial advice, but more than likely if he's got the balls to break into someone's house and cross that threshold than he's a dangerous and being prepared would only be a wise thing in a rational society.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> From: Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
> To: 
> Cc: vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Hmmm . . .
> 
> The premise of your post was that he was breaking into homes when people were there. Now you're inventing his motive to kill you. No, if he saw your face, he'd be a believer, not a killer.
> 
> 
> Sunil
> 
> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 22:56:57 -0800
> From: godshatter at yahoo.com
> To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Hmmm . . .
> 
> 
> It didn't say he was.  If he did, though, I'd want to be able to protect myself if he ran across me in a home he thought was empty and he got it through his head that I had to die because I'd seen his face.  Or maybe he's desperate, and now he's willing to try hitting a house that is occupied but looks like he could rob it regardless.
> 
> It's a tool of preparedness.  I'd rather not assume that he's harmless if he's breaking into houses and robbing them.  If my assumption is wrong, I could die.  I'd rather not throw away my chance at survival because "OMG!  Guns are bad!"
> 
> It doesn't mean, by the way, that I'd just shoot this guy for breaking into my house.  But a loaded weapon is a good deterrent, and if it turns out my life is at stake, I'd rather have a gun than a shoe I could throw at him, or whatever I happened to have at hand.
> 
> This isn't rocket science.  Be prepared.  It's the good old Boy Scout motto.   I also have a smoke detector and a fire extinguisher.
> 
> Don't let the "guns are killing our kids!" narrative drive your views.
> 
> Paul
> 
> On 02/19/2013 10:43 PM, Sunil Ramalingam wrote:
> Paul,
> 
> Where does it say he's breaking into homes when people are in? I had a lot of burglary cases, and my mistakenly charged clients were usually alleged to have entered homes when no one was there. Lots easier to leave with stuff that way, said the authorities.
> 
> Sunil
> 
> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 19:02:25 -0800
> From: godshatter at yahoo.com
> To: thansen at moscow.com
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Hmmm . . .
> 
> 
> What's paranoid about locking up when you're out and being ready to defend yourself when you're at home when there is a known burglar in the area?  Being prepared is not the same thing as being paranoid.  If someone is crazy enough to break into your home while you are there, you can go ahead and classify that as a situation fraught with danger, in which case having some means to protect yourself might be called for.  There are plenty of reasonable scenarios where a would-be burglar happens upon a member of the household when he thought the place was empty that could end up very badly for the person he stumbled upon.  If the burglar knew you were at home and invaded the home anyway, then you've definitely got a problem if you are happily unarmed.
> 
> Better to have that gun when you need it than not.  If guns frighten you, which I find hard to believe because of               your military background, then at least pick up a good aluminum baseball bat.
> 
> Do you think I'm paranoid because I keep a set of jumper cables in my trunk in case my battery dies and I need a jump from a kind stranger?  Are you one of those people that joyously flit from situation to situation relying on the gods to keep you out of trouble?
> 
> Paul
> 
> On 02/19/2013 01:18 PM, Tom Hansen wrote:
> 
> 
> Paranoia . . . self-destroya.
> 
> Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
> 
> "Moscow Cares"
> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>   
> Tom "Proud to be a Filthy Liberal Scum" Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
> 
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still 
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill 
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
> 
> - John Lennon
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