[Vision2020] Senate Bill S1854

Thu Dec 19 14:19:48 PST 2013

It's not about the size of the load, that's just a smoke and mirrors argument.

It's about the fact that the equipment is going to be used in an oil drilling operation.

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> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:57:02 -0800 
> From: godshatter at yahoo.com 
> To: thansen at moscow.com 
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com 
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Senate Bill S1854 
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> So, no one should move loads that are large on our roadways, ever?  If  
> a person has a 467-foot long, 800-ton widget and they need to transport  
> it from location A to location B, and locations A and B don't happen to  
> be large port cities on accessible bodies of water, then what other  
> choice do they have?  Dirigibles? 
>  
> I'm just trying to figure out what has got you so worked up about this  
> shipment.  Is it the traffic delays?  Possible damage to our roadways?   
> Are you worried their engineers have miscalculated the strength of the  
> bridge or the amount of room needed to make that corner? 
>  
> Paul 
>  
>  
> ________________________________ 
> From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> 
> To: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> 
> Cc: Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 12:43 PM 
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Senate Bill S1854 
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> FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME, MR. RUMELHART! 
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> MY ARGUMENT DOES NOT CONCERN THE PROCESS REQUIRED IN OBTAINING A PERMIT. 
>  
> Here is another hint. 
>  
> Picture, if you will . . . 
>  
> - A 467-feet long, 800-ton megaload traversing north on US95 thru  
> Moscow (Washington 
> Street) as it approaches the curves in the road (by the Corner) that  
> merges with south-bound US95 in Moscow (Jackson Street). 
>  
> - That same 467-feet long, 800-ton megaload traveling east on I-90  
> (just east of Cd'A) as it approaches the Veterans Memorial Bridge. 
>  
> NOW, DO YOU GET IT? 
>  
> 'Nuff said!!! 
>  
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . . 
>  
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on) 
> http://www.MoscowCares.com<http://www.moscowcares.com/> 
>  
> Tom Hansen 
> Moscow, Idaho 
>  
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still 
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill 
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill." 
>  
> - John Lennon 
>  
>  
>  
> On Dec 19, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Paul Rumelhart  
> <godshatter at yahoo.com<mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>> wrote: 
>  
> What is your argument with, if not the permit process.  That's the  
> question I'm trying to ask. 
>  
> Paul 
>  
>  
> ________________________________ 
> From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com<mailto:thansen at moscow.com>> 
> To: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com<mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>> 
> Cc: Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com<mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>> 
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 12:04 PM 
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Senate Bill S1854 
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> I have no argument with the "process", Mr. Rumelhart . . . unless that  
> process is politically circumvented. 
>  
> Care to share your understanding of weight limitations on public  
> roadways . . . the one stipulated in Idaho's statutes? 
>  
> (Hint:  "467 feet in length, coupled with 1,600,000 pounds in weigh"  
> kinda exceeds it) 
>  
> I've done my research, Mr. Rumelhart.  Now, it's your turn. 
>  
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . . 
>  
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on) 
> http://www.MoscowCares.com<http://www.moscowcares.com/> 
>  
> Tom Hansen 
> Moscow, Idaho 
>  
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still 
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill 
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill." 
>  
> - John Lennon 
>  
>  
>  
> On Dec 19, 2013, at 11:48 AM, Paul Rumelhart  
> <godshatter at yahoo.com<mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>> wrote: 
>  
> So there is a permit process covering this.  Is there something wrong  
> with that process? 
>  
> Paul 
>  
>  
> ________________________________ 
> From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com<mailto:thansen at moscow.com>> 
> To: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com<mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>> 
> Cc: Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com<mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>> 
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 11:26 AM 
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Senate Bill S1854 
>  
> These megaloads, like your imagination, Mr. Rumelhart, are oversized. 
>  
> And speaking of permits . . . that 647-feet long, 800-ton megaload  
> currently snailing its way down eastern Oregon has not yet obtained a  
> permit from the Idaho Transportation Department. 
>  
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . . 
>  
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on) 
> http://www.MoscowCares.com<http://www.moscowcares.com/> 
>  
> Tom Hansen 
> Moscow, Idaho 
>  
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still 
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill 
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill." 
>  
> - John Lennon 
>  
>  
>  
> On Dec 19, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Paul Rumelhart  
> <godshatter at yahoo.com<mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>> wrote: 
>  
> Well we all know that men overestimate length quite regularly, so I  
> couldn't say.  Isn't there a permit process already established for  
> these large shipments?  Are those limits or the costs of the permits  
> inadequate? 
>  
> Paul 
>  
> ________________________________ 
> From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com<mailto:thansen at moscow.com>> 
> To: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com<mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>> 
> Cc: Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com<mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>> 
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 9:56 AM 
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Senate Bill S1854 
>  
> That depends, Mr. Rumelhart. 
>  
> What do you consider to be "large"? 
>  
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . . 
>  
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on) 
> http://www.MoscowCares.com<http://www.moscowcares.com/> 
>  
> Tom Hansen 
> Moscow, Idaho 
>  
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still 
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill 
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill." 
>  
> - John Lennon 
>  
>  
>  
> On Dec 19, 2013, at 9:45 AM, Paul Rumelhart  
> <godshatter at yahoo.com<mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>> wrote: 
>  
> I'm confused.  Are you against all transportation of large items in  
> Idaho using public roads? 
>  
> Paul 
>  
>  
> ________________________________ 
> From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com<mailto:thansen at moscow.com>> 
> To: Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com<mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>> 
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 5:36 AM 
> Subject: [Vision2020] Senate Bill S1854 
>  
> Dec 18, 2013 — Introduced 
> S. 1854: A bill to amend title 23, United States Code, with respect to  
> the operation of longer combination vehicles on the Interstate System  
> in Idaho, and for other  
> purposes.<https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s1854?utm_campaign=govtrack_email_update&utm_source=govtrack/email_update&utm_medium=email> 
> Sponsor: Sen. Michael Crapo  
> [R-ID]<https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/michael_crapo/300030> 
> This bill was referred to the Senate Committee on Environment and  
> Public Works which will consider it before sending it to the Senate  
> floor for consideration. 
> Sen. Michael Crapo [R-ID] is a member of the committee. 
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>  
> This bill currently has one cosponsor . . . Sen. James Risch (R-ID). 
>  
> Of the options available to Sens. Crapo and Risch, this one beats  
> chasing Winmills, huh? 
>  
> Source: 
> https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s1854?utm_campaign=govtrack_email_update&utm_source=govtrack/email_update&utm_medium=emaild 
>  
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . . 
>  
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on) 
> http://www.MoscowCares.com<http://www.moscowcares.com/> 
>  
> Tom Hansen 
> Moscow, Idaho 
>  
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still 
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill 
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill." 
>  
> - John Lennon 
>  
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