[Vision2020] Take a look at this
Scott Dredge
scooterd408 at hotmail.com
Wed Aug 28 22:13:19 PDT 2013
Is Zimmy's safety really worth getting upset about? He seems to be a
big boy who is capable of taking care of himself. He got attacked and
after being beaten on for some time and screaming for help (as the
prosecution's witness testified), his self preservation instincts kicked
in and, despite being banged up, he was able to turn the tables and
'bang' the other guy up. He also seems to be well armed now in order to
protect himself according to his attorney. I'm not sure what you're
worried about Paul unless you think he's at some sort of disadvantage
due to 'element of surprise' and the fact that bullets can hit their
target from a distance. That's the nature of the beast combined with
the 2nd amendment rights of would be killers.
Now if you're still
frustrated that untold throngs of those unwilling to take the time to
look into the facts of the case are still sticking with the absurd
summary of 'white man stalks and kills black teen', why keep hitting
your head against the wall? This is one of those cases where racial
bias, gun rights bias, and complete ignorance is king and 'facts be
damned'. Whatever evidence there is available in 911 calls, just ignore
it. Better yet, don't even listen to the calls. Zimmerman was found
at the scene 2 minutes after the shooting with a bloody, swollen, broken
nose and cuts to the back of his head, just whitewash those injuries away too.
Tom's worthless opinion is that those were self-inflicted. Saundra
posits that they were all caused in one feel swoop with a single
tackle. Even when the prosecution puts forth an eyewitness who testifies that
TM was beating GZ, keep in mind that eyewitness testimony is very
unreliable so ignore this testimony and just make up your own version of
events.
As for the charge of stalking this is one of the most
amazing instances of 'stalking' I've every listened to. 'Stalker stalks
victim while on the phone with police dispatcher for 4+ minutes
describing in detail where he wants police to meet him to collect the
dead body'.
As I wrote 'facts be damned'. Easier to just to vent your outrage upon a racist shooter, a racist police department willing to
believe the racist shooter's lies of events, incompetence of a special
prosecutor to easily prove a straightforward 'black and white' case of
murder, and a racist jury.
Paul wrote:
<What
if the race roles were reversed and it was the KKK instead putting
a bounty on a black George Zimmerman? I can rest assured that
there would be outrage then.>
You'll get no argument from anyone on that.
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 20:48:14 -0700
From: godshatter at yahoo.com
To: thansen at moscow.com
CC: tim at moscowattorney.com; donaldrose at cpcinternet.com; scooterd408 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Take a look at this
Look, I get that this was just a silly publicity stunt, and that
if someone delivered George Zimmerman they wouldn't even know what
to do with him. I get that.
What I don't get is why nobody is upset about this but me. What
if the race roles were reversed and it was the KKK instead putting
a bounty on a black George Zimmerman? I can rest assured that
there would be outrage then. But since you've all made Zimmerman
into the devil, you folks out there on this list apparently don't
give a crap.
I think that's terrible. All because you've convinced yourselves
that he did something we can't prove and that doesn't fit the
facts of the case, which I've posted at length about.
But, hey, revel in your outrage. Who cares about Zimmerman
anyway, right?
Fuck George Zimmerman! *shakes fist*
Paul
On 08/28/2013 08:32 PM, Tom Hansen wrote:
JEEEEESH!
I'm guessing that the "bounty" terminated on April 11, 2012 .
. . just about tne time ZIMMERMAN
WAS ARRESTED.
'Nuff said!
Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants
on)
http://www.MoscowCares.com
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
"There's room at the top they are telling
you still
But first you must learn how to smile as you
kill
If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
- John Lennon
On Aug 28, 2013, at 8:23 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
wrote:
Yes, the article I linked to mentioned that. I haven't seen
anything declaring the bounty null and void, though, so I
would assume it's still in effect. Do you assume they've
taken it back and have decided they don't want his capture?
Paul
On 08/28/2013 08:10 PM, Tom Hansen wrote:
You really ought check things out once in a while,
Mr. Rumelhart.
The Black Panther video within your link was posted
to Youtube on March 25, 2012, SEVENTEEN DAYS BEFORE
ZIMMERMAN WAS ARRESTED
ON APRIL 11, 2012.
<mime-attachment.jpg>
Regarding Zimmerman's arrest on April 11, 2012
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/pursuing-justice-george-zimmerman-arrested-charged-with-second-degree-murder/2012/04/11/gIQA2DSGBT_blog.html
Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your
pants on)
http://www.MoscowCares.com
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
"There's room at the top they are
telling you still
But first you must learn how to smile
as you kill
If you want to be like the folks on the
hill."
- John Lennon
On Aug 28, 2013, at 7:38 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
wrote:
Yes, that's true.
Just in case you think I'm making the whole bounty
thing up about a bounty on George Zimmerman, here is
a link:
http://pix11.com/2013/07/19/black-panthers-10k-bounty-to-capture-george-zimmerman-dead-or-alive-sparks-outrage-confusion/
And one for the death threats:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-family-death-threats-article-1.1399756
I, personally, find it outrageous that a man found
not guilty of a crime has to fear for his life like
this. I'm sure it happens all the time, but that
doesn't make it right.
Anyway, sorry about the snark. Tom just gets to me
sometimes.
Paul
On 08/28/2013 07:01 PM, Tim Gresback wrote:
snark + snark = I don't learn
anything
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at
4:18 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
wrote:
I didn't
make this world in which people put a
bounty on George Zimmerman. I'm just
curious if they will think his wife is
getting too lucrative a deal, too. I'm
assuming she already gets death threats,
so nothing new to be added there. If you
are disgusted by this, take it up with the
New Black Panther Party and the many
wackos delivering the death threats.
Besides, I thought my comment had roughly
the same amount of snark in it as Tom's
comment, which is what I was going for.
Paul
From:
Rosemary Huskey <donaldrose at cpcinternet.com>
To:
'Paul Rumelhart' <godshatter at yahoo.com>;
'Tom Hansen' <thansen at moscow.com>;
'Scott Dredge' <scooterd408 at hotmail.com>
Cc:
'viz' <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent:
Wednesday, August 28, 2013 4:13
PM
Subject:
RE: [Vision2020] Take a look at
this
What
in the world is wrong
with you, Paul?
Rose
Huskey
From:
vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Paul
Rumelhart
Sent:
Wednesday, August
28, 2013 4:05 PM
To: Tom
Hansen; Scott
Dredge
Cc: viz
Subject:
Re: [Vision2020]
Take a look at
this
I wonder
what her bounty will
be.
Paul
From:
Tom Hansen
<thansen at moscow.com>
To:
Scott Dredge
<scooterd408 at hotmail.com>
Cc: viz
<vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent:
Wednesday,
August 28,
2013 3:59 PM
Subject:
Re:
[Vision2020]
Take a look at
this
Exactly.
I
mean it's not
like she was .
. . a black
teen . . .
walkin' though
the 'hood . .
. wearin' a
hoodie . . .
packin' some
heavy
munchies.
Right, Mr.
Dredge?
Seeya
'round town,
Moscow,
because . . .
"Moscow
Cares" (the
most fun you
can have with
your pants on)
http://www.MoscowCares.com
Tom
Hansen
Moscow,
Idaho
"There's room at the top they are telling you
still
But first you must learn how to smile as you
kill
If you want to
be like the
folks on the
hill."
-
John Lennon
On Aug 28,
2013, at 3:46
PM, Scott
Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com> wrote:
She
pled guilty to
a
misdemeanor.
They didn't
want to tag
her with
felony perjury
because she
wants to
potentially
pursue a
nursing
degree.
Date:
Wed, 28 Aug
2013 12:50:37
-0400
From: ngier006 at gmail.com
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject:
[Vision2020]
Take a look at
this
Hi,
Zimmer's wife
pleads guilty
to perjury
I thought
you'd like
this:
http://fw.to/ijFXHhh
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