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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Is Zimmy's safety really worth getting upset about? He seems to be a
big boy who is capable of taking care of himself. He got attacked and
after being beaten on for some time and screaming for help (as the
prosecution's witness testified), his self preservation instincts kicked
in and, despite being banged up, he was able to turn the tables and
'bang' the other guy up. He also seems to be well armed now in order to
protect himself according to his attorney. I'm not sure what you're
worried about Paul unless you think he's at some sort of disadvantage
due to 'element of surprise' and the fact that bullets can hit their
target from a distance. That's the nature of the beast combined with
the 2nd amendment rights of would be killers.<br><br>Now if you're still
frustrated that untold throngs of those unwilling to take the time to
look into the facts of the case are still sticking with the absurd
summary of 'white man stalks and kills black teen', why keep hitting
your head against the wall? This is one of those cases where racial
bias, gun rights bias, and complete ignorance is king and 'facts be
damned'. Whatever evidence there is available in 911 calls, just ignore
it. Better yet, don't even listen to the calls. Zimmerman was found
at the scene 2 minutes after the shooting with a bloody, swollen, broken
nose and cuts to the back of his head, just whitewash those injuries away too.
Tom's worthless opinion is that those were self-inflicted. Saundra
posits that they were all caused in one feel swoop with a single
tackle. Even when the prosecution puts forth an eyewitness who testifies that
TM was beating GZ, keep in mind that eyewitness testimony is very
unreliable so ignore this testimony and just make up your own version of
events.<br><br>As for the charge of stalking this is one of the most
amazing instances of 'stalking' I've every listened to. 'Stalker stalks
victim while on the phone with police dispatcher for 4+ minutes
describing in detail where he wants police to meet him to collect the
dead body'.<br><br>As I wrote 'facts be damned'. Easier to just to vent your outrage upon a racist shooter, a racist police department willing to
believe the racist shooter's lies of events, incompetence of a special
prosecutor to easily prove a straightforward 'black and white' case of
murder, and a racist jury.<br><br>Paul wrote:<br><What
if the race roles were reversed and it was the KKK instead putting
a bounty on a black George Zimmerman? I can rest assured that
there would be outrage then.><br><br>You'll get no argument from anyone on that.<br><br><br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 20:48:14 -0700<br>From: godshatter@yahoo.com<br>To: thansen@moscow.com<br>CC: tim@moscowattorney.com; donaldrose@cpcinternet.com; scooterd408@hotmail.com; vision2020@moscow.com<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Take a look at this<br><br>
<div class="ecxmoz-cite-prefix"><br>
Look, I get that this was just a silly publicity stunt, and that
if someone delivered George Zimmerman they wouldn't even know what
to do with him. I get that.<br>
<br>
What I don't get is why nobody is upset about this but me. What
if the race roles were reversed and it was the KKK instead putting
a bounty on a black George Zimmerman? I can rest assured that
there would be outrage then. But since you've all made Zimmerman
into the devil, you folks out there on this list apparently don't
give a crap. <br>
<br>
I think that's terrible. All because you've convinced yourselves
that he did something we can't prove and that doesn't fit the
facts of the case, which I've posted at length about.<br>
<br>
But, hey, revel in your outrage. Who cares about Zimmerman
anyway, right?<br>
<br>
Fuck George Zimmerman! *shakes fist*<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
On 08/28/2013 08:32 PM, Tom Hansen wrote:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:D98439C8-230E-4D4B-9CFF-7D100D933BEF@moscow.com">
<div><b><i><u>JEEEEESH!</u></i></b></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I'm guessing that the "bounty" terminated on April 11, 2012 .
. . just about tne time <b>ZIMMERMAN</b></div>
<div><b>WAS ARRESTED</b>.<br>
<br>
'Nuff said!</div>
<div><br>
<div>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants
on)</div>
<div><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com" target="_blank">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div>
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<div>
<div>Tom Hansen</div>
<div>Moscow, Idaho</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>"<span style="font-size:medium;">There's room at the top they are telling
you still</span><span style="font-size:medium;"> </span></div>
<span style="font-size:medium;">But first you must learn how to smile as you
kill </span><br style="font-size:medium;">
<span style="font-size:medium;">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div>
<div><font size="3"><span style=""><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font size="3"><span style="">- John Lennon<br>
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<div><br>
On Aug 28, 2013, at 8:23 PM, Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div>
<div class="ecxmoz-cite-prefix"><br>
Yes, the article I linked to mentioned that. I haven't seen
anything declaring the bounty null and void, though, so I
would assume it's still in effect. Do you assume they've
taken it back and have decided they don't want his capture?<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
On 08/28/2013 08:10 PM, Tom Hansen wrote:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:8E37C6DE-7871-4060-AACD-01A2149ED65B@moscow.com">
<div><span></span></div>
<div>
<div>You really ought check things out once in a while,
Mr. Rumelhart.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The Black Panther video within your link was posted
to Youtube on March 25, <b>2012, SEVENTEEN DAYS BEFORE
ZIMMERMAN WAS ARRESTED</b></div>
<div><b>ON APRIL 11, 2012.</b></div>
<div><b><br>
</b></div>
<div><mime-attachment.jpg></div>
<div><b><br>
</b></div>
<div>Regarding Zimmerman's arrest on April 11, 2012</div>
<div><span style="font-size:15px;line-height:19px;white-space:nowrap;"><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/pursuing-justice-george-zimmerman-arrested-charged-with-second-degree-murder/2012/04/11/gIQA2DSGBT_blog.html" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/pursuing-justice-george-zimmerman-arrested-charged-with-second-degree-murder/2012/04/11/gIQA2DSGBT_blog.html</a></span><b><br>
</b><br>
<div>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your
pants on)</div>
<div><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com" target="_blank">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div>
<div> </div>
<div>
<div>Tom Hansen</div>
<div>Moscow, Idaho</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>"<span style="font-size:medium;">There's room at the top they are
telling you still</span><span style="font-size:medium;"> </span></div>
<span style="font-size:medium;">But first you must learn how to smile
as you kill </span><br style="font-size:medium;">
<span style="font-size:medium;">If you want to be like the folks on the
hill."</span></div>
<div><font size="3"><span style=""><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font size="3"><span style="">- John Lennon<br>
</span></font>
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<div><br>
On Aug 28, 2013, at 7:38 PM, Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
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<blockquote>
<div>
<div class="ecxmoz-cite-prefix"><br>
Yes, that's true. <br>
<br>
Just in case you think I'm making the whole bounty
thing up about a bounty on George Zimmerman, here is
a link: <br>
<br>
<a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://pix11.com/2013/07/19/black-panthers-10k-bounty-to-capture-george-zimmerman-dead-or-alive-sparks-outrage-confusion/" target="_blank">http://pix11.com/2013/07/19/black-panthers-10k-bounty-to-capture-george-zimmerman-dead-or-alive-sparks-outrage-confusion/</a><br>
<br>
And one for the death threats:<br>
<br>
<a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-family-death-threats-article-1.1399756" target="_blank">http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-family-death-threats-article-1.1399756</a><br>
<br>
I, personally, find it outrageous that a man found
not guilty of a crime has to fear for his life like
this. I'm sure it happens all the time, but that
doesn't make it right. <br>
<br>
Anyway, sorry about the snark. Tom just gets to me
sometimes. <br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 08/28/2013 07:01 PM, Tim Gresback wrote:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:CAGL1vJd90Wz7Ckg7sH=SR2Tq_eHNu-SqsiHptk3CUrv+dt2UXg@mail.gmail.com">
<div dir="ltr">snark + snark = I don't learn
anything </div>
<div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at
4:18 PM, Paul Rumelhart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div>
<div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;">I didn't
make this world in which people put a
bounty on George Zimmerman. I'm just
curious if they will think his wife is
getting too lucrative a deal, too. I'm
assuming she already gets death threats,
so nothing new to be added there. If you
are disgusted by this, take it up with the
New Black Panther Party and the many
wackos delivering the death threats.<br>
<br>
Besides, I thought my comment had roughly
the same amount of snark in it as Tom's
comment, which is what I was going for.<span class="ecxHOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
Paul<br>
</font></span>
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<div class="ecxhm ecxHOEnZb"> </div>
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<hr size="1"> <font face="Arial">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b>
Rosemary Huskey <<a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com" target="_blank">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b>
'Paul Rumelhart' <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>>;
'Tom Hansen' <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>>;
'Scott Dredge' <<a href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com" target="_blank">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a>>
<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b>
'viz' <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a>>
<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b>
Wednesday, August 28, 2013 4:13
PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b>
RE: [Vision2020] Take a look at
this<br>
</font> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="h5">
<div><br>
<div>
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<div>
<div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d;">What
in the world is wrong
with you, Paul?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d;">Rose
Huskey</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d;">
</span></div>
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<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;">
<div><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";">
<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul
Rumelhart<br>
<b>Sent:</b>
Wednesday, August
28, 2013 4:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tom
Hansen; Scott
Dredge<br>
<b>Cc:</b> viz<br>
<b>Subject:</b>
Re: [Vision2020]
Take a look at
this</span></div>
</div>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>
<div style="background:white;"><span style="">I wonder
what her bounty will
be.<br>
<br>
Paul</span></div>
<div>
<div style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div style="text-align:center;background:white;" align="center">
<span style="">
<hr align="center" size="1" width="100%"></span></div>
<div style="background:white;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";">
Tom Hansen
<<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br>
<b>To:</b>
Scott Dredge
<<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com" target="_blank">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a>>
<br>
<b>Cc:</b> viz
<<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a>>
<br>
<b>Sent:</b>
Wednesday,
August 28,
2013 3:59 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b>
Re:
[Vision2020]
Take a look at
this</span><span style=""></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div style="background:white;"><span style="">Exactly.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="background:white;"><span style="">I
mean it's not
like she was .
. . a black
teen . . .
walkin' though
the 'hood . .
. wearin' a
hoodie . . .
packin' some
heavy
munchies.
Right, Mr.
Dredge?</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div>
<div>
<div style="background:white;"><span style="">Seeya
'round town,
Moscow,
because . . .</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="background:white;"><span style="">"Moscow
Cares" (the
most fun you
can have with
your pants on)</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="background:white;"><span style=""><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" target="_blank">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div style="background:white;"><span style="">Tom
Hansen</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="background:white;"><span style="">Moscow,
Idaho</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="background:white;"><span style="">"</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;">There's room at the top they are telling you
still </span><span style=""></span></div>
</div>
<div style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;">But first you must learn how to smile as you
kill <br>
If you want to
be like the
folks on the
hill."</span><span style=""></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="background:white;">
<span style="">
</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="background:white;"><span style="">-
John Lennon</span></div>
<div>
<div style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="background:white;"><span style=""> </span></div>
</div>
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<div style="background:white;"><span style=""><br>
On Aug 28,
2013, at 3:46
PM, Scott
Dredge <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com" target="_blank">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></div>
</div>
<blockquote style="">
<div>
<div>
<div style="background:white;"><span style="">She
pled guilty to
a
misdemeanor.
They didn't
want to tag
her with
felony perjury
because she
wants to
potentially
pursue a
nursing
degree.</span></div>
<div>
<div style="text-align:center;background:white;" align="center"><span style="">
<hr align="center" size="2" width="100%"></span></div>
<div style="background:white;"><span style="">Date:
Wed, 28 Aug
2013 12:50:37
-0400<br>
From: <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:ngier006@gmail.com" target="_blank">ngier006@gmail.com</a><br>
To: <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
Subject:
[Vision2020]
Take a look at
this<br>
<br>
Hi,<br>
<br>
Zimmer's wife
pleads guilty
to perjury<br>
<br>
I thought
you'd like
this:<br>
<a rel="nofollow" href="http://fw.to/ijFXHhh" target="_blank">http://fw.to/ijFXHhh</a><br>
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