[Vision2020] Zimmy beams as he tours gun factory

Paul Rumelhart godshatter at yahoo.com
Sun Aug 25 12:00:15 PDT 2013 

What part of this isn't defensible?

What I feel compelled to do is try to break this idea that he stalked Martin and shot him because he hated black people.  I don't see any evidence for that, but I see lots of evidence that Zimmerman's story as he told it adds up.  It's institutionalized hatred at this point, supported by the President on down.  That's a scary thing to me.

Paul




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Paul,

Some things aren't defensible. Zimmerman engaging in this is not defensible. It's an idiotic, asshole move.

Why do you feel compelled to defend his every action?

Sunil



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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 08:30:10 -0700
From: godshatter at yahoo.com
To: scooterd408 at hotmail.com
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Zimmy beams as he tours gun factory



You're right.  He should look properly chastened at all times so
      as not to offend people like yourself.  I bet he was laughing at a
      joke!  The bastard.

I will admit that if he was thinking in terms of PR, then staging
      a photoshoot at a gun store was not the brightest move.  I
      suspect, though, that he can't move three feet in public without
      some self-righteous a-hole tracking his every move and taking his
      picture.  It won't last long, though.  They'll get him in civil
      court soon where the threshold for evidence is not so high.

While we're on the subject, does anyone out there in viz-land
      condone the bounty put on him by the New Black Panther Party? 
      Does anyone condemn it?  How about the multiple death threats he
      and his family have been getting?  I normally wouldn't ask this,
      but the reactions here to this case have so disappointed me that I
      just have to.

Paul

On 08/24/2013 10:16 PM, Scott Dredge wrote:

 
>I think it's STUPID of Zimmerman to be cheesing it up for photos while touring a gun factory.  I was seeing shades that idiot president of CA fish and game who bagged a mountain lion in Idaho and went on the cover of some magazine beaming while holding the dead carcass.
>
>FWIW - I disagree that Zimmerman was hunting Martin, but
        nonetheless he did fatally shoot him and this type of behavior
        is quite the opposite of being remorseful.  But hey, if he wants
        to stay around Florida and make himself visible while there's a
        bounty on his head, that's certainly his choice and likely
        another bad choice in a growing list.
>
>
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>CC: scooterd408 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Zimmy beams as he tours gun factory
>Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 18:30:05 -0700
>To: godshatter at yahoo.com
>
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>I said it was closer to hunting than self defense. It was. And Martin was a kid; Zimmerman was not. And Martin is dead. Maybe that is why no one is blaming him. 
>
>
>Did Martin make a mistake? Apparently -- but really we don't know that any more than we know why Zimmerman did what he did. But Martin paid a hefty price for his mistake. Zimmerman did not. That's why folks are upset.
>
>On Aug 24, 2013, at 6:20 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>That's the narrative I'm talking about.  It completely
                ignores Trayvon Martin's own actions that helped lead to
                his death and it exaggerates George Zimmerman's
                actions.  Following someone down a sidewalk is not the
                same as "hunting" a person.  We have exactly zero
                evidence that Zimmerman followed Martin in order to kill
                him.  
>>
>>But have fun with the narrative.  If you happen across
                Zimmerman, get in a few licks for the rest of us.
>>
>>Paul 
>>
>>On 08/24/2013 05:44 PM, Joe Campbell wrote:
>>
>>Goes against the narrative? The guy stalked a kid, against the advice of a 911 operator, and ended up killing him. 
>>>
>>>
>>>Honestly, I just don't get it. Stalking and shooting is a lot closer to hunting than self-defense. Why is that so difficult for you to see?
>>>
>>>On Aug 24, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Well, he and his family do get death threats
                      regularly: http://globalgrind.com/2013/08/03/robert-zimmerman-reveals-family-400-death-threats-per-minute-starbucks-employee-george-trayvon-martin-details/
>>>>
>>>>And there is a $10,000 bounty put on Zimmerman for
                      his capture by the New Black Panther Party: http://www.upi.com/blog/2013/07/19/Black-Panthers-2012-video-for-Zimmerman-bounty-resurfaces/3711374236844/
>>>>
>>>>So maybe he is in need of a good home-defense
                      weapon.
>>>>
>>>>Of course, progressives are not allowed to feel
                      bad about that because it goes against the
                      narrative.  Pity, one could almost feel bad for a
                      guy who is reviled on the national stage for
                      protecting himself from getting his ass beat,
                      whether or not it was his own stupidity that got
                      him there.  
>>>>
>>>>Oh, well.  It's much easier to think of him as a
                      monster.  
>>>>
>>>>Paul
>>>>
>>>>On 08/24/2013 03:29 PM, Scott Dredge wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>>http://www.mediaite.com/online/george-zimmerman-went-gun-shopping-today/
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