[Vision2020] A Double Standard?

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Sun Aug 25 09:57:02 PDT 2013


Both this and the Lane case are tragic whether race was involved or not.
And people miss the "race" point in the Zimmerman case. Some folks may
think Zimmerman was racist but whether he was or not is irrelevant. Why was
a young black man regarded as suspicious? Why did the cops believe
Zimmerman's story immediately and fail to investigate the crime scene
fully? Why the long delay before charging Zimmerman? None of these aspects
are part of the Lane and Spokane tragedies.


On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Carl Westberg <idahovandal1 at live.com>wrote:

> Regarding the Spokane tragedy, the Spokane police chief was quoted as
> saying that race was not a factor.  We'll know more after the second
> perpetrator is arrested, and details emerge.  Perhaps it will be proven
> that race was an issue.  It's also entirely possible that it's a case of
> two very twisted teens, who happen to be black, committing a horrific
> atrocity, and the victim was white.  I believe Spokane is about 86% white,
> so if they were choosing some defenseless old man to rob and beat, the odds
> are good that the victim would have been white.  I have read some of the
> comments in the Spokesman-Review and the Seattle Times about the case, and
> many of the  comments prove that when it comes to race relations, our
> country, sadly,  still has a long way to go.  A very long way.
>
> ------------------------------
> From: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 09:28:49 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A Double Standard?
>
> Wayne,
>
> You can't possibly think you can substantiate this claim, can you?
>
> 'I'm trying to understand why it is that when ever a victim of a crime is
> black, and the perpetrator isn't, it comes across as a race-based crime,
> and everyone from the White House downplays the race card?'
>
> Sunil
> ------------------------------
> From: bear at moscow.com
> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 07:38:30 -0700
> To: scooterd408 at hotmail.com
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] A Double Standard?
>
> Scott,
>
>
> I'm trying to understand why it is that when ever a victim of a crime is
> black, and the perpetrator isn't, it comes across as a race-based crime,
> and everyone from the White House downplays the race card,
> yet when the crime victim is white, and the perpetrator is black, such as
> in the Chris Lane case, and even closer to Moscow in the Delbert Belton
> case, race is not an issue. Are we dealing with a double standard, or
> perhaps race doesn't play a role in either situation?
>
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> On Aug 24, 2013, at 10:44 PM, Scott Dredge wrote:
>
> Conservative are making the comparison and trying to turn this into a
> media circus:
>
>    - If G.W. Bush had a son, he'd look like Christopher Lane - Fox News
>    - White House has a 'double standard' compared with GZ/TM - Fox News
>    - The shooting is 'Trayvon Martin in reverse, but worse' - Rush
>    Limbaugh
>    - '[Black on White crime] doesn't fit the American news agenda' -
>    Glenn Beck
>
>
>
> As and aside, Fox psychiatrist Keith Ablow placed the blame squarely on
> abortions and Facebook.
>
> ------------------------------
> From: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 21:24:08 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Race will be ignored in murder of Christopher
> Lane
>
> Right, so I don't know what this case has to do with the Martin case.
>
> SR
>
> ------------------------------
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> From: thansen at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Race will be ignored in murder of Christopher
> Lane
> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 20:55:52 -0700
> To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
>
> 45 days had passed before Zimmerman was charged with anything.
>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
> - John Lennon
>
>
>
> On Aug 24, 2013, at 8:13 PM, Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Was there any delay in bringing charges against the defendants? In the
> Trayvon Martin case, no charges were brought until there was intense media
> attention and several weeks had passed.
>
> In this instance, charges have been brought within the week.
>
> How is this case analogous to the Martin case? Why would we compare this
> crime to that one?
>
>  Sunil
>
> ------------------------------
> From: scooterd408 at hotmail.com
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 17:44:35 -0600
> Subject: [Vision2020] Race will be ignored in murder of Christopher Lane
>
> From Time Magazine:
> 'But let’s face it: black America isn’t nearly as indignant about black
> boys killing one another or whites as about the occasional white cop
> killing one black boy, even though the former wreaks much more havoc in
> black communities.'
>
>
> http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/22/viewpoint-dont-ignore-race-in-christopher-lanes-murder/
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