<div dir="ltr">Both this and the Lane case are tragic whether race was involved or not. And people miss the "race" point in the Zimmerman case. Some folks may think Zimmerman was racist but whether he was or not is irrelevant. Why was a young black man regarded as suspicious? Why did the cops believe Zimmerman's story immediately and fail to investigate the crime scene fully? Why the long delay before charging Zimmerman? None of these aspects are part of the Lane and Spokane tragedies.<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Carl Westberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:idahovandal1@live.com" target="_blank">idahovandal1@live.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><div dir="ltr">Regarding the Spokane tragedy, the Spokane police chief was quoted as saying that race was not a factor. We'll know more after the second perpetrator is arrested, and details emerge. Perhaps it will be proven that race was an issue. It's also entirely possible that it's a case of two very twisted teens, who happen to be black, committing a horrific atrocity, and the victim was white. I believe Spokane is about 86% white, so if they were choosing some defenseless old man to rob and beat, the odds are good that the victim would have been white. I have read some of the comments in the Spokesman-Review and the Seattle Times about the case, and many of the comments prove that when it comes to race relations, our country, sadly, still has a long way to go. A very long way.<br>
<br><div><hr>From: <a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" target="_blank">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a><br>CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 09:28:49 -0700<br>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A Double Standard?<br><br>
<div dir="ltr">Wayne,<br><br>You can't possibly think you can substantiate this claim, can you?<br><br>'I'm trying to understand why it is that when ever a
victim of a crime is black, and the perpetrator isn't, it comes across
as a race-based crime, and everyone from the White House downplays the
race card?'<br><br>Sunil<br><div><hr>From: <a href="mailto:bear@moscow.com" target="_blank">bear@moscow.com</a><br>Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 07:38:30 -0700<br>To: <a href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com" target="_blank">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a><br>
CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>Subject: [Vision2020] A Double Standard?<br><br><div>Scott,</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I'm trying to understand why it is that when ever a victim of a crime is black, and the perpetrator isn't, it comes across as a race-based crime, and everyone from the White House downplays the race card,</div>
<div>yet when the crime victim is white, and the perpetrator is black, such as in the Chris Lane case, and even closer to Moscow in the Delbert Belton case, race is not an issue. Are we dealing with a double standard, or perhaps race doesn't play a role in either situation?</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Wayne</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
<div><div>On Aug 24, 2013, at 10:44 PM, Scott Dredge wrote:</div><br><blockquote><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium"><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri">
<div dir="ltr">Conservative are making the comparison and trying to turn this into a media circus:<br><ul><li>If G.W. Bush had a son, he'd look like Christopher Lane - Fox News<br></li><li>White House has a 'double standard' compared with GZ/TM - Fox News</li>
<li>The shooting is 'Trayvon Martin in reverse, but worse' - Rush Limbaugh</li><li>'[Black on White crime] doesn't fit the American news agenda' - Glenn Beck</li></ul><br><br>As and aside, Fox psychiatrist Keith Ablow placed the blame squarely on abortions and Facebook.<br>
<br><div><hr>From:<span> </span><a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" target="_blank">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a><br>CC:<span> </span><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 21:24:08 -0700<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Race will be ignored in murder of Christopher Lane<br><br><div dir="ltr">Right, so I don't know what this case has to do with the Martin case.<br><br>
SR<br><br><div><hr>CC:<span> </span><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>From:<span> </span><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Race will be ignored in murder of Christopher Lane<br>
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 20:55:52 -0700<br>To:<span> </span><a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" target="_blank">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a><br><br><div>45 days had passed before Zimmerman was charged with anything.<br>
<br><div>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</div><div><br></div><div>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div><div><a href="http://www.MoscowCares.com" target="_blank">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div>
<div> </div><div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="font-size:medium">There's room at the top they are telling you still</span><span style="font-size:medium"> </span></div>
<span style="font-size:medium">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill </span><br style="font-size:medium"><span style="font-size:medium">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><font size="3"><span><br>
</span></font></div><div><font size="3"><span>- John Lennon<br></span></font><div> </div></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Aug 24, 2013, at 8:13 PM, Sunil Ramalingam <<a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" target="_blank">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><blockquote><div><div dir="ltr">Was there any delay in bringing charges against the defendants? In the Trayvon Martin case, no charges were brought until there was intense media attention and several weeks had passed.<br>
<br>In this instance, charges have been brought within the week.<br><br>How is this case analogous to the Martin case? Why would we compare this crime to that one?<br><br> Sunil<br><br><div><hr>From:<span> </span><a href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com" target="_blank">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a><br>
To:<span> </span><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 17:44:35 -0600<br>Subject: [Vision2020] Race will be ignored in murder of Christopher Lane<br><br>
<div dir="ltr">From Time Magazine:<br>'But let’s face it: black America isn’t nearly as indignant about black boys killing one another or whites as about the occasional white cop killing one black boy, even though the former wreaks much more havoc in black communities.'<div style="border-bottom-width:medium;border-top-style:none;text-align:left;border-color:initial;border-right-style:none;border-top-width:medium;border-bottom-style:none;overflow-x:hidden;overflow-y:hidden;border-left-style:none;border-right-width:medium;text-decoration:none;border-left-width:medium">
<br></div><a href="http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/22/viewpoint-dont-ignore-race-in-christopher-lanes-murder/" target="_blank">http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/22/viewpoint-dont-ignore-race-in-christopher-lanes-murder/</a><br>
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