[Vision2020] Race will be ignored in murder of Christopher Lane

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Sat Aug 24 18:16:31 PDT 2013


Here's another link which is more relevant to this particular discussion,
though again it has more to do with criminal justice than killing per se.
But the point is WHY are "progressives" clued in to a particular
"narrative"? Because IF you are black and kill someone who is white, there
is a hell of a lot better chance that you will go to jail than if you are
white (or Latino) and kill someone who is black.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/54671/the-one-graph-that-proves-stand-your-ground-laws-help-jurors-let-white-defendants-go-free

Here are the other links so we can keep them all in one place:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs-Rz6LkSz0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfie5bHG1OA

You keep making it seem as if "progressives" and "liberals" are making
stuff up. They are not. Do some research. Folks are upset about the
Zimmerman verdict for good reason, and not just because he was reckless. We
don't see race in other cases -- like the Christopher Lane case -- because
likely (as in this case) there just isn't any race issue or because the
examples of "racism" against whites pales in comparison to examples of
racism against blacks. Some of us think it is a big deal because it is a
big deal.



On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>wrote:

> Oops! Here's the link:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs-Rz6LkSz0
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Here's an interesting graphic about prison population in the end. I'm
>> using because your "libertarian" sensibilities will suck you in in the
>> first half and that might help the race stuff at the end filter into your
>> brain. I'll look for some other numbers too. Then you can show me what's
>> wrong with the numbers and why black anger about the criminal justice
>> system is misplaced.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I've posted the numbers.
>>>
>>> On Aug 24, 2013, at 5:43 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I recommend that if you do look those numbers up, make sure they are
>>> averaged out by population.  This takes relative population sizes into
>>> account.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> On 08/24/2013 05:36 PM, Joe Campbell wrote:
>>>
>>> One of the killers was white. Maybe that's why race is being ignored.
>>> And try looking up some numbers about the number of blacks killed by white
>>> police officers, vs. whites killed by black police officers. Or the number
>>> of blacks killed by whites in general, vs. whites killed by blacks.
>>>
>>> On Aug 24, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   From Time Magazine:
>>> 'But let’s face it: black America isn’t nearly as indignant about black
>>> boys killing one another or whites as about the occasional white cop
>>> killing one black boy, even though the former wreaks much more havoc in
>>> black communities.'
>>>
>>>
>>> http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/22/viewpoint-dont-ignore-race-in-christopher-lanes-murder/
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