[Vision2020] Huge majority wants Clapper prosecuted for perjury

[Paul Rumelhart]

Biased poll or not, he did apparently commit perjury.  I don't see why 
he should get an automatic pass.  If it were you or me, we'd likely be 
prosecuted for it.  It should certainly be investigated, in my opinion.  
Of course, I'm not a lawyer, so maybe it's more complicated than I think.

Paul

On 08/17/2013 06:13 PM, Scott Dredge wrote:
> The question is logically straightforward.  The director was revealed 
> to have lied to Congress and he's on record as admitting to not 
> telling the truth.  Lacking any other critical information, I'd be 
> compelled to answer 'No' to a question of 'should he be prosecuted for 
> pejury?'
>
> How about you Paul?  Would you answer 'Yes' to a blatantly biased poll 
> question such as this that is just begging for an answer of 'Yes'?
>
> -Scott
>
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> Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 17:19:33 -0700
> From: godshatter at yahoo.com
> To: Vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] Huge majority wants Clapper prosecuted for perjury
>
> I'm curious how people here would have voted on the poll.  If you 
> don't want to read further, here is the question that was asked:
>
> "Edward Snowden revealed that the Director of National Intelligence 
> lied to Congress about whether the government was collecting millions 
> of phone and Internet records from ordinary Americans. The Director 
> has since admitted he did not tell the truth. Do you think the 
> Director of National Intelligence should be prosecuted for perjury?"
>
> Also, how much gall is there in Obama asking Clapper to head an NSA 
> reform panel?  Is he trying to look evil?
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Here is the article from Salon 
> (http://www.salon.com/2013/08/15/huge_majority_wants_clapper_prosecuted_for_perjury/):
>
>
> Huge majority wants Clapper prosecuted for perjury
>
>  New polls show Americans in various states want the director of 
> national intelligence held to account for lying
> By David Sirota
>
> There is no longer any doubt that Director of National Intelligence 
> James Clapper lied to Congress. Likewise, there is no doubt that his 
> lie runs afoul of federal law. And, of course, there is no doubt that 
> in terms of its implications for oversight, constitutional precepts 
> and privacy for millions of Americans, his lies were far more serious 
> than those that have gotten other people prosecuted for perjury. The 
> question now is whether his brazen dishonesty will become a political 
> issue — or whether it will simply disappear into the ether.
>
> As evidenced by President Obama this week attempting to promote 
> Clapper to head an “independent” NSA reform panel, the White House 
> clearly believes it will be the latter. But a set of new polls out 
> today suggests such a calculation may be wrong.
>
> Commissioned by the Progressive Change Campaign Committee and Credo 
> and conducted by Public Policy Polling in five ideologically diverse 
> states, the surveys find that huge majorities want Clapper prosecuted.
>
> The question posed to respondents was:
>
>     Edward Snowden revealed that the Director of National Intelligence 
> lied to Congress about whether the government was collecting millions 
> of phone and Internet records from ordinary Americans. The Director 
> has since admitted he did not tell the truth. Do you think the 
> Director of National Intelligence should be prosecuted for perjury?
>
> In the Democratic states of California and Hawaii, 54 percent and 58 
> percent of voters, respectively, want him prosecuted. In 
> middle-of-the-road Iowa, it’s 65 percent. And in Republican Texas and 
> Kentucky, it is 68 percent and 69 percent, respectively.
>
> These are particularly striking numbers because the “not sure” numbers 
> are relatively small. Oftentimes, Washington scandals have a Las 
> Vegas-style quality to them in that what happens in D.C. stays in D.C. 
> That often means voters don’t have strong feelings about a controversy 
> — or don’t feel informed enough to have a strong opinion.
>
> But in this case, the polls show relatively few voters expressing such 
> a sentiment. That suggests not only that the NSA story has seeped into 
> the national consciousness, but also that people are specifically 
> aware of — and disgusted by — the rampant lying by the Obama 
> administration.
>
> PCCC is already running a campaign to try to force a formal 
> investigation into the NSA’s activities. Will we soon see ads by 
> congressional candidates criticizing the administration’s failure to 
> prosecute Clapper? Last week, D.C. political operatives might have 
> laughed at that idea.
>
> But with these new polls, it doesn’t seem so far-fetched. In fact, it 
> seems more and more like shrewd politics — especially if the White 
> House continues to grant de facto immunity to Clapper and others who 
> hid potentially illegal and unconstitutional surveillance from Congress.
>
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