[Vision2020] GPS Tracking and Secret Policies

Sat Aug 17 09:06:08 PDT 2013

My suggestion, for people who call themselves 'Progressives' or 'Liberals' or who oppose what both Bush and Obama, indeed both parties are doing, is to stop voting for politicians who support these measures. For the next election, certainly this includes both Biden and H. Clinton. Stop buying into the rationalization that we have to vote for them for the sake of Supreme Court nominees, or whatever else is thrown at us. Vote for one of the small parties. Maybe when the Ds see that they can't count on our support while they support and carry out these policies, they will start to change. Right now there is no pressure to change, only to continue what Bush (and with Rendition, Clinton) started or continued.

Or come to terms with your support of empire, Wall Street bailouts, illegal spying, the murder of citizens and non-citizens with drones, secret bombings etc. Votes for Obama, Biden, H. Clinton certainly means support for all those policies. 

Please demonstrate for me, if you can, that I'm wrong. I don't think you can, since it's quite clear the politicians I named above (along with most Republicans, though some would not support the Wall Street bailouts) all support those policies.

Sunil

CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
From: moscowcares at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] GPS Tracking and Secret Policies
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 08:38:04 -0700
To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com

And your suggestion is . . . ?

Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)http://www.MoscowCares.com  Tom HansenMoscow, Idaho
"There's room at the top they are telling you still But first you must learn how to smile as you kill If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
- John Lennon

On Aug 17, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:

Only if we are partisan and blind to the consequences of his actions. 

He has normalized torture, rendition, illegal killing of citizens...

We can't do better than this?

Sunil

CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
From: thansen at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] GPS Tracking and Secret Policies
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 08:33:41 -0700
To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com

As much as I partially agree with you, Sunil . . .
He is still the best game in town.
Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)http://www.MoscowCares.com  Tom HansenMoscow, Idaho
"There's room at the top they are telling you still But first you must learn how to smile as you kill If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
- John Lennon

On Aug 17, 2013, at 8:16 AM, Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:

Obama promised the most transparent administration ever, but has instead gone after leaks and whistleblowers with more prosecutions than any - or is it all put together - previous administrations. He's against leaks except when it suits him politically; then leaks are okay.

Sunil

Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 07:50:57 -0400
From: art.deco.studios at gmail.com
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] GPS Tracking and Secret Policies

August 16, 2013

GPS Tracking and Secret Policies

By 

THE EDITORIAL BOARD

This week brought fresh revelations about the National Security Agency’s
 sloppy and invasive collection of phone data on Americans and others, 
as reported first by The Washington Post. In another realm of 
surveillance — the government’s broad use of location tracking devices —
 the Justice Department was in federal court on Thursday defending its 
refusal to release memos containing information about its policies 
governing the use of GPS and other potentially invasive technologies.   

The American Civil Liberties Union had brought the lawsuit to demand 
that the department make the memos public. The documents were prepared 
after a 2012 Supreme Court ruling, United States v. Jones, which held 
that placement of a hidden tracking device on a suspect’s car 
constitutes a “search” under the Fourth Amendment.        

That case left lots of questions unanswered, including whether GPS 
tracking always requires a warrant based on probable cause, and how the 
Fourth Amendment applies to tracking someone 24/7 with cellphone 
location technology. After the decision was released, the F.B.I.’s 
general counsel, Andrew Weissmann, mentioned in a public talk that the 
government was issuing memos containing official guidance for federal 
agents and prosecutors on when they can use tracking technology and how 
the Jones decision applies to other types of techniques, beyond GPS.    

The public has a right to know the government’s policies on these 
matters. There is very good reason to be concerned about the 
government’s interpretation of its police powers, especially given the 
Obama administration’s insensitivity to privacy in its mass collection 
of phone data in the national security sphere.        

When the A.C.L.U. filed a request for the memos under the Freedom of 
Information Act, the Justice Department responded by handing over copies
 with the text nearly entirely blanked out, prompting the lawsuit. The 
Justice Department claims that the memos were prepared anticipating 
litigation and are exempt from disclosure because they are a lawyer’s 
work product. But to the extent Mr. Weissmann accurately represented the
 memos, they also amount to statements of official policy, not merely 
exchanges by lawyers on legal theories, which the work-product exception
 is meant to protect.        

Our strong hunch is that there is material in the memos that can and 
should be revealed without harm to law enforcement or the appropriate 
discussion of confidential legal strategies. At Thursday’s hearing, 
Judge William Pauley III said he would personally review the documents 
before deciding whether they should be released.        

It is distressing that the administration, which claims to welcome a 
debate over the government’s surveillance practices, time and again 
refuses to be transparent about those practices. Instead of awaiting a 
court order, the administration should release the tracking memos on its
 own.        

-- 
Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
art.deco.studios at gmail.com

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