[Vision2020] Idaho education task force holds community forumsin April

Tue Apr 9 15:04:52 PDT 2013

http://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/acrossstates/Rankings.aspx?ind=5199 Idaho only spends 75% as much as the national average. 

The problem with the US education system is too much is spent on administration and not much on the teachers and students. The other problem with the comparisons to other nations is that the US spending includes medical care for students, in other countries it doesn't because they have universial health care. So what is actually spent on a child's education is not the same. There is little motivation to highly educate our children because the US can import brains d talent very easily, and their are few jobs in the US for a need of a high education. 

Donovan J. Arnold

From: Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com>
To: Gary Crabtree <moscowlocksmith at gmail.com>; Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> 
Cc: Friends of the Clearwater <foc at friendsoftheclearwater.org>; Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>; Jeanne McHale <jeannemchale at hotmail.com>; Fritz Knorr <fritzknorr at gmail.com>; Brett Haverstick <bhaverstick at yahoo.com>; Wild Idaho Rising Tide <wild.idaho.rising.tide at gmail.com>; Helen Yost <helen.yost at vandals.uidaho.edu> 
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Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Idaho education task force holds community forumsin April

I vote we try the Finnish model....socialist, highly unionized, high performing.  It could be a start. 

Interesting graphic, Gary.  One of the serious points of comparison is what we spend for education is not what other nations call “education.”  For example, much of our funding for special education (which is important, but nevertheless huge, ) other nations allocate under health services, etc.  I’m not claiming “apples and oranges” because it’s such a trite phrase, but it really is difficult to talk about comparisons when the measures aren’t comparable.  One way we could save a bundle is to cut back on mandated nationally-normed (supposedly) testing, which is making big money for these companies, but works against excellent teaching.  
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Sue H. 

From: Gary Crabtree 
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 11:24 AM
To: Donovan Arnold 
Cc: Friends of the Clearwater ; Moscow Vision 2020 ; Jeanne McHale ; Fritz Knorr ; Brett Haverstick ; Wild Idaho Rising Tide ; Helen Yost 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Idaho education task force holds community forumsin April
http://rossieronline.usc.edu/u-s-education-versus-the-world-infographic/

On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:

They need a task force to figure out how to improve education in the State of Idaho. Really? How about this suggestion, hire teachers, pay them a livable wage, and supply them with materials to teach the children. Frankly I am surprised that Idaho even cares about education considering it spends so little money on education compared to about 45 other states and most of the modern world. 
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>Donovan J. Arnold
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>With thanks to a friend and fellow Vision 2020 subscriber . . . 
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>Courtesy of the Idaho Statesman at:
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>Idaho education task force holds community forums in April
>Read more here: http://www.idahostatesman.com/2013/04/08/2525320/idaho-education-task-force-holds.html#storylink=cpy%23storylink=cpy
>The Idaho Task Force for Improving Education will hold a series of community forums across the state in April.
>A 31-member task force is charged with developing recommendations to improve public education in the state.
>Gov. Butch Otter proposed the task force in December and asked the State Board of Education to appoint members, lead the discussion and develop a series of recommendations in time for the 2014 Legislature.
>This month’s forums will provide information and seek input on K-12 education issues in Idaho.
>Forums will be held at the following locations:
>• Wednesday, April 10, 6:30 p.m. Nampa High School Little Theatre, 203 Lake Lowell, Nampa.
>• Thursday, April 11, 6:30 p.m. O’Leary Middle School auditorium, 2350 Elizabeth Blvd., Twin Falls.
>• Monday, April 15, 6:30 p.m. Meriwether Lewis Hall, Room 100, Lewis-Clark State College, Lewiston.
>• Tuesday, April 16, 6:30 p.m. Lake Coeur d’Alene Room, North Idaho College Student Union Building, Coeur d'Alene.
>• Monday, April 22, 6:30 p.m. Tingey Auditorium, University Place, 1776 Science Center Drive, Idaho Falls.
>• Tuesday, April 23, 6:30 p.m. Century High School, 7801 W. Diamondback Dr., Pocatello.
>• Thursday, April 25, 6:30 p.m. Lincoln Auditorium, Idaho Capitol Building, 700 W. Jefferson, Boise.
>The community forums in Coeur d’Alene, Idaho Falls and Boise will be streamed on the web by Idaho Public Television at idahoptv.org
>Those not able to attend one of the forums can provide feedback and comments via email at taskforce at osbe.idaho.gov.
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>Read more here: http://www.idahostatesman.com/2013/04/08/2525320/idaho-education-task-force-holds.html#storylink=cpy%23storylink=
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>The community forums streamed from Coeur d’Alene, Idaho Falls and Boise will be recorded and posted to "Moscow Cares" for public online viewing.
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>Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .
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>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
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>Tom Hansen
>Moscow, Idaho
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