<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:8pt"><div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto"><A style="RIGHT: auto" href="http://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/acrossstates/Rankings.aspx?ind=5199">http://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/acrossstates/Rankings.aspx?ind=5199</A> Idaho only spends 75% as much as the national average. </SPAN></div>
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<helen.yost@vandals.uidaho.edu> <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, April 8, 2013 12:57 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Vision2020] Idaho education task force holds community forumsin April<BR></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<DIV>I vote we try the Finnish model....socialist, highly unionized, high performing. It could be a start. </DIV>
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<DIV>Interesting graphic, Gary. One of the serious points of comparison is what we spend for education is not what other nations call “education.” For example, much of our funding for special education (which is important, but nevertheless huge, ) other nations allocate under health services, etc. I’m not claiming “apples and oranges” because it’s such a trite phrase, but it really is difficult to talk about comparisons when the measures aren’t comparable. One way we could save a bundle is to cut back on mandated nationally-normed (supposedly) testing, which is making big money for these companies, but works against excellent teaching. </DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=moscowlocksmith@gmail.com href="mailto:moscowlocksmith@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:moscowlocksmith@gmail.com">Gary Crabtree</A> </DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>They need a task force to figure out how to improve education in the State of Idaho. Really? How about this suggestion, hire teachers, pay them a livable wage, and supply them with materials to teach the children. Frankly I am surprised that Idaho even cares about education considering it spends so little money on education compared to about 45 other states and most of the modern world. </SPAN></DIV>
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ymailto="mailto:foc@friendsoftheclearwater.org">foc@friendsoftheclearwater.org</A>>; Fritz Knorr <<A href="mailto:fritzknorr@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:fritzknorr@gmail.com">fritzknorr@gmail.com</A>>; Jeanne McHale <<A href="mailto:jeannemchale@hotmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:jeannemchale@hotmail.com">jeannemchale@hotmail.com</A>>; Brett Haverstick <<A href="mailto:bhaverstick@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:bhaverstick@yahoo.com">bhaverstick@yahoo.com</A>>; Wild Idaho Rising Tide <<A href="mailto:wild.idaho.rising.tide@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:wild.idaho.rising.tide@gmail.com">wild.idaho.rising.tide@gmail.com</A>>; Helen Yost <<A href="mailto:helen.yost@vandals.uidaho.edu" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:helen.yost@vandals.uidaho.edu">helen.yost@vandals.uidaho.edu</A>> <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT:
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<DIV>With thanks to a friend and fellow Vision 2020 subscriber . . . </DIV>
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