[Vision2020] Question, V-Peeps . . .

Ron Force rforce2003 at yahoo.com
Wed Oct 31 11:04:22 PDT 2012


How does a UI student qualify for residency?

How Does an Individual Establish Domicile in Idaho?
The individual must be physically present in Idaho primarily for purposes other than education.  If the individual is a student and has been enrolled for more than 8 credits at any time during the past 12 months, Idaho considers that primarily for educational purposes disqualifying them from Idaho residency, unless the student can rebut that presumption by proving establishment of domicile.  To establish domicile, the individual must have continuously resided** in Idaho for 12 consecutive months and have met one of the following criteria prior to the opening day of the semester for which the student is applying for residency:
	1. Filing a full-year resident Idaho state income tax return (current year) OR
	2. Maintained permanent, full-time employment in the state of Idaho for at least 12 months OR
	3. Student has owned their own living quarters for at least 12 months.  (This applies only to students who are basing residency on themselves; does not apply when residency is based on parent/legal guardian.) OR
	4. Establishment of 5 of the following 7 factors; each factor must have been done for at least 12 months prior to the semester which the student is applying for residency:

	1. Registration and payment of Idaho taxes or fees on a motor vehicle, motor home, travel trailer, or other item of personal property for which state registration and the payment of a state tax or fee is required;
	2. Registration to vote for state elected officials in Idaho at a general election;
	3. Holding an Idaho driver's license or Idaho state-issued ID card;
	4. Evidence of abandonment of previous domicile;
	5. Presence of household goods in Idaho (living in University housing cannot be used as a factor);
	6. Establishment of accounts with Idaho financial institutions;
	7. Other similar factors indicating intent to be domiciled in Idaho and maintenance of such domicile.  Factors may include but are not limited to enrollment of dependent children in Idaho primary or secondary schools, establishment of acceptance or an offer of permanent employment for self in Idaho, or documented need to care for a relative in Idaho.

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 From: Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com>
To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Question, V-Peeps . . .
 

Ron Force posted that Brown has a Washington driver's license.

If that is true, then to obtain such a license, the applicant has to affirm that they have established residency in Washington, and they must surrender any license from another state.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=46.20.021

If Brown has in fact obtained a Washington driver's license, then he has affirmed under oath and penalty of perjury that he is a Washington resident, therefore not a Moscow, Idaho resident, and therefore not legally qualified to continue serving on the Moscow city council.

If the above is the case, then it is up to the City of Moscow to initiate proceedings to remove him.

Given the known predilections of at least two council members for dishonesty and disobeying inconvenient laws, probably nothing will happen until some Moscow resident decides to force the issue through some legal process starting with a letter of demand to the mayor and city council.

If Brown has in fact obtained a Washington driver's license, but continues to serve on the Moscow City Council, then his character and integrity are certainly not honorable.  It should come as no surprise then that I disagree with Gary Crabtree that Brown is a worthy role model.  In fact, if the allegations about his residency are true, then his whole range of past business and personal dealings in Moscow are open to question.

w.


On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

Ahhh, the memories . . .
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>Right, Joe?
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>The Date:  February 3, 2009
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>The Place:  Friendship Square
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>Pop quiz, V-Peeps!
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>One of these gentlemen (I may be only half right) is "Philosopher Joe" Campbell, notorious moderator of KRFP's "Sound and Fury".  The other one isn't.
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>Question:  Who's who?
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>Seeya at the polls, Moscow, because . . .
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>"Moscow Cares"
>http://www.MoscowCares.com
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>Tom Hansen
>Moscow, Idaho
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>"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students.  The college students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."
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>- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
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>On Oct 31, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:
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>Again, I'm happy to know that you're satisfied but clearly not everyone is.
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>>On Oct 31, 2012, at 5:46 AM, "Gary Crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:
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>>Hey, it was your odd analogy that introduced the 
masculine/feminine into the discourse, I just tried to frame my response (no 
argument) within it.
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>>>It's my understanding that Tim is staying with his 
sister till his term as councilman is up. He is not driving down from Spokane to 
attend meetings and returning to Washington.
>>>While some may consider this an "issue" it sure isn't 
much of one. I feel sure that Tom and the usual suspects can whine to their 
little hearts content but, Tim will effectively serve 
>>>out his term and then move on.
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>>>g
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>>>From: Joe Campbell 
>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:35 PM
>>>To: Gary Crabtree 
>>>Cc: Gary Crabtree ; Moscow Vision 2020 
>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Question, V-Peeps . . .
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>>>First, this is a bad argument. By this reasoning, even if Brown lived in 
NYC it would be OK. As long as he was "manly," or whatever. That is 
absurd.
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>>>Second, you are missing the point. Personally I don't care too much where 
Brown lives. But just because it isn't an issue for me, or you, or Matt doesn't 
mean it isn't an issue. If enough people care, it is an issue. That's how 
politics works. The existence of this thread suggests that it is an issue.
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>>>On Oct 30, 2012, at 8:50 PM, "Gary Crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com> 
wrote:
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>>>Actually, in keeping with your flawed analogy, it  was much more like saying that there are those who have been using the men's  room since 1992 who might do well to emulate someone who has  had it down all their life. Sorry if my initial post was overly  subtle.
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>>>>g
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>>>>From: Joe Campbell 
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:58 PM
>>>>To: Gary Crabtree 
>>>>Cc: Friends of the Clearwater ; Moscow  Vision 2020 ; Jeanne McHale ; Fritz Knorr ; Friends of the Palouse Ranger District 
>>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Question, V-Peeps . . 
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>>>>This is like saying if someone was male for most of his life and then  becomes a women, she should still be able to use the men's room.
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>>>>On Oct 
  30, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Gary Crabtree <moscowlocksmith at gmail.com>  wrote:
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>>>>Tim has been a respected and productive member of the community since  decades prior to 1992. Where he's living at this particular moment has  little bearing on his effectiveness as a council member. You might even  consider him for a potential role model.
>>>>>g
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>>>>>On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
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>>>>>Is it true that Tim Brown (member of the Moscow City  Council) resides in . . . SPOKANE, WASHINGTON ? ? ?
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>>>>>>It does matter, 
      V-Peeps, because . . .
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>>>>>>"Moscow Cares"
>>>>>>http://www.MoscowCares.com
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>>>>>>Tom "a constituent who 
      has lived within the city limits of Moscow, Idaho since 1992" 
      Hansen
>>>>>>Moscow, 
      Idaho
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