[Vision2020] Question, V-Peeps . . .

Wed Oct 31 09:48:45 PDT 2012

Ron Force posted that Brown has a Washington driver's license.

If that is true, then to obtain such a license, the applicant has to affirm
that they have established residency in Washington, and they must surrender
any license from another state.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=46.20.021

If Brown has in fact obtained a Washington driver's license, then he has
affirmed under oath and penalty of perjury that he is a Washington
resident, therefore not a Moscow, Idaho resident, and therefore not legally
qualified to continue serving on the Moscow city council.

If the above is the case, then it is up to the City of Moscow to initiate
proceedings to remove him.

Given the known predilections of at least two council members for
dishonesty and disobeying inconvenient laws, probably nothing will happen
until some Moscow resident decides to force the issue through some legal
process starting with a letter of demand to the mayor and city council.

If Brown has in fact obtained a Washington driver's license, but continues
to serve on the Moscow City Council, then his character and integrity are
certainly not honorable.  It should come as no surprise then that I
disagree with Gary Crabtree that Brown is a worthy role model.  In fact, if
the allegations about his residency are true, then his whole range of past
business and personal dealings in Moscow are open to question.

w.

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

> Ahhh, the memories . . .
>
> Right, Joe?
>
> The Date:  February 3, 2009
>
> The Place:  Friendship Square
>
> [image: image.jpeg]
>
> Pop quiz, V-Peeps!
>
> One of these gentlemen (I may be only half right) is "Philosopher Joe"
> Campbell, notorious moderator of KRFP's "Sound and Fury".  The other one
> isn't.
>
> Question:  Who's who?
>
> Seeya at the polls, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares"
> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students.  The college
> students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."
>
> - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 31, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Again, I'm happy to know that you're satisfied but clearly not everyone is.
>
> On Oct 31, 2012, at 5:46 AM, "Gary Crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hey, it was your odd analogy that introduced the masculine/feminine into
> the discourse, I just tried to frame my response (no argument) within it.
>
> It's my understanding that Tim is staying with his sister till his term as
> councilman is up. He is not driving down from Spokane to attend meetings
> and returning to Washington.
> While some may consider this an "issue" it sure isn't much of one. I feel
> sure that Tom and the usual suspects can whine to their little hearts
> content but, Tim will effectively serve
> out his term and then move on.
>
> g
>
>  *From:* Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:35 PM
> *To:* Gary Crabtree <jampot at roadrunner.com>
> *Cc:* Gary Crabtree <moscowlocksmith at gmail.com> ; Moscow Vision 2020<vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Question, V-Peeps . . .
>
> First, this is a bad argument. By this reasoning, even if Brown lived in
> NYC it would be OK. As long as he was "manly," or whatever. That is absurd.
>
> Second, you are missing the point. Personally I don't care too much where
> Brown lives. But just because it isn't an issue for me, or you, or Matt
> doesn't mean it isn't an issue. If enough people care, it is an issue.
> That's how politics works. The existence of this thread suggests that it is
> an issue.
>
> On Oct 30, 2012, at 8:50 PM, "Gary Crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
> wrote:
>
>  Actually, in keeping with your flawed analogy, it was much more like
> saying that there are those who have been using the men's room since
> 1992 who might do well to emulate someone who has had it down all their
> life. Sorry if my initial post was overly subtle.
>
> g
>
>  *From:* Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:58 PM
> *To:* Gary Crabtree <moscowlocksmith at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Friends of the Clearwater <foc at friendsoftheclearwater.org> ; Moscow
> Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com> ; Jeanne McHale<jeannemchale at hotmail.com>; Fritz
> Knorr <fritzknorr at gmail.com> ; Friends of the Palouse Ranger District<fprd09 at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Question, V-Peeps . . .
>
> This is like saying if someone was male for most of his life and then
> becomes a women, she should still be able to use the men's room.
>
> On Oct 30, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Gary Crabtree <moscowlocksmith at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>  Tim has been a respected and productive member of the community since
> decades prior to 1992. Where he's living at this particular moment has
> little bearing on his effectiveness as a council member. You might even
> consider him for a potential role model.
>  g
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>
>> Is it true that Tim Brown (member of the Moscow City Council) resides in
>> . . . SPOKANE, WASHINGTON ? ? ?
>>
>> It does matter, V-Peeps, because . . .
>>
>> "Moscow Cares"
>> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>>
>> Tom "a constituent who has lived within the city limits of Moscow, Idaho
>> since 1992" Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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