[Vision2020] A Tradition of Excellence? Not Really!

[deb]

Intermittant positive reinforcement worksgreat, though! Just witness my dang dog going to the Phillips Farm Park (through locked doors, a fenced yard, a chain, and continuous "bad dog" training) to get the occasional peanutbutter sandwich or to be petted by kids who will romp with him. He turns into a maniac when he sees a vehicle turn down that long driveway....Ahh, LaMont, the doofus! If he shows up while you are at the park, point up-hill and say "Mont, go home". throw a rock if he doesn't. Please don't kick or shoot him---he just LOOOOOVES people.
Debi R-S
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Art Deco 
  To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A Tradition of Excellence? Not Really!


  "Electrifying the metal wire floors of rat and mice cages in laboratories, and marking faces of children in classrooms, may well have short-term behavioral effects on both the markees and the markers that are noticeable and perhaps predictably replicable. They may also have longer-term effects that are not so noticeable or desirable, even to those who don't look."

  That is exactly what Skinner posits and provides evidence for:  Negative reinforcement, if it works at all, generally only works in the short term and creates far more long term consequences.

  Skinner's critics often ignore the main findings of his work, choosing and selecting only to focus on incomplete segments.

  w.



  On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Kenneth Marcy <kmmos1 at frontier.com> wrote:

    Electrifying the metal wire floors of rat and mice cages in laboratories, and marking faces of children in classrooms, may well have short-term behavioral effects on both the markees and the markers that are noticeable and perhaps predictably replicable. They may also have longer-term effects that are not so noticeable or desirable, even to those who don't look.




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  Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
  art.deco.studios at gmail.com






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