[Vision2020] [corrected] Hmmm . . .

Sat May 26 00:52:53 PDT 2012

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On May 25, 2012, at 10:47 PM, Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Joe,
> 
> You asked, 'But what if it were a different drug? What if your friend were shooting up?'
> 
> My position is the same; I would decriminalize them all. I think the War of Drugs is a complete failure, and I don't support laws like frequenting. It lets the state criminalize everyone who's there, not just those in possession or using.
> 
> 'What if your friend was a fireman taking oxycodon? Would it matter then?'
> 
> If someone is under the influence of oxycodone in a job like that, then yes, I think it's a problem. But I'm not joining the parade demanding random tests for firefighters or police officers. You should have a reason to test someone, not just impose tests on all.
> 
> Sunil
> 
> 
> > Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 06:55:52 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [corrected] Hmmm . . .
> > From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> > To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
> > CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > 
> > I agree with you, Sunil.
> > 
> > But what if it were a different drug? What if your friend were
> > shooting up? What if your friend was a fireman taking oxycodon? Would
> > it matter then? Joe
> > 
> > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Sunil Ramalingam
> > <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > So let's say you are at a friend's place,  you're drinking a beer. Your
> > > friend lights up a joint. You don't leave, you just stay there and keep
> > > watching the football game. You never touch the joint, you decline politely
> > > when your friend offers it to you.
> > >
> > > Now somehow the police show up. They charge your friend with possession of
> > > weed, and they charge you with frequenting.
> > >
> > > You support that? Seriously? Do you also support our War on Drugs?
> > >
> > > Sunil
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > CC: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > From: thansen at moscow.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [corrected] Hmmm . . .
> > > Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 00:48:44 -0700
> > > To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
> > >
> > > It is really quite simple.
> > >
> > > I support the criminal charge of "frequenting a place where [illegal] drugs
> > > are used."
> > >
> > > I simply do not believe that marijuana should be considered an illegal drug.
> > >
> > > I believe that the term "illegal" is implicit in the charge, otherwise
> > > police would be staking out such facilities as Gritman Medical Center,
> > > Moscow Family Medicine, and other "place[s] where drugs are used."
> > >
> > > Oops.  I almost added the Moscow Fire Department to that list.
> > >
> > > Seeya round town, Moscow.
> > >
> > > Tom Hansen
> > > Moscow, Idaho
> > >
> > > "If not us, who?
> > > If not now, when?"
> > >
> > > - Unknown
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On May 23, 2012, at 0:06, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Sunil,
> > >
> > > Yes, it does sound like his position is, "It is ok to smoke MJ, just not to
> > > be hanging around while someone else is smoking it." Doesn't sound logical
> > > or sound reasoning to me, I am sure he didn't think about it.
> > >
> > > I just think they need to end prohibition on MJ, it isn't working and just
> > > funds violent crime. All that violence and mass murders in Mexico is the
> > > result of making MJ illegal. If it was rich white people instead of poor
> > > Mexicans getting their heads chopped off they wouldn't be ignoring the
> > > situation like they are now. It is racism in its purist form.
> > >
> > > Donovan J. Arnold
> > >
> > > From: Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
> > > To: vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:51 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [corrected] Hmmm . . .
> > >
> > > Tom,
> > >
> > > While I understand and agree with your sentiments here, I cannot square them
> > > with your support last week of the nature of the frequenting charge. I hope
> > > you mis-spoke when you took that position, or perhaps had not thought it
> > > through.
> > >
> > > After all, if you don't think the individuals below should be charged, why
> > > would you want someone present in the same place as the marijuana to be
> > > charged?
> > >
> > > Sunil
> > >
> > > From: moscowcares at moscow.com
> > > Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 15:20:56 -0700
> > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > Subject: [Vision2020] [corrected] Hmmm . . .
> > >
> > > Courtesy of the "Public Records" section of today's (May 21, 2012)
> > > Mocow-Pullman Daily News.
> > >
> > > -----------------------------------
> > >
> > > WSU POLICE
> > > Thursday
> > > 7:30 a.m. - An 18-year-old man was arrested via prosecutor's summons for
> > > alleged possession of marijuana less than 40 grams.
> > > 8:27 a.m. - An 18-year-old man was arrested via prosecutor's summons for
> > > alleged possession of marijuana less than 40 grams.
> > > 10:07 a.m. - An 18-year-old woman was arrested via prosecutor's summons for
> > > alleged possession of marijuana less than 40 grams.
> > > -----------------------------------
> > >
> > > Two questions, V-Peeps . . .
> > >
> > > - How much ya figger it's costin' the Whitman County tax payers to arrest,
> > > prosecute, and incarcerate these three misdemeanants?
> > >
> > > - How much tax revenue ya figger that the state of Washington would have
> > > realized had those (approximately) 120 grams of marijuana been legalized,
> > > regulated, and taxed?
> > >
> > > Seeya round town, Moscow.
> > >
> > > Tom Hansen
> > > Moscow, Idaho
> > >
> > > "If not us, who?
> > > If not now, when?"
> > >
> > > - Unknown
> > >
> > >
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