[Vision2020] [corrected] Hmmm . . .

Fri May 25 22:47:48 PDT 2012

Joe,

You asked, 'But what if it were a different drug? What if your friend were shooting up?'

My position is the same; I would decriminalize them all. I think the War of Drugs is a complete failure, and I don't support laws like frequenting. It lets the state criminalize everyone who's there, not just those in possession or using.

'What if your friend was a fireman taking oxycodon? Would it matter then?'

If someone is under the influence of oxycodone in a job like that, then yes, I think it's a problem. But I'm not joining the parade demanding random tests for firefighters or police officers. You should have a reason to test someone, not just impose tests on all.

Sunil

> Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 06:55:52 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [corrected] Hmmm . . .
> From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> 
> I agree with you, Sunil.
> 
> But what if it were a different drug? What if your friend were
> shooting up? What if your friend was a fireman taking oxycodon? Would
> it matter then? Joe
> 
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Sunil Ramalingam
> <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > So let's say you are at a friend's place,  you're drinking a beer. Your
> > friend lights up a joint. You don't leave, you just stay there and keep
> > watching the football game. You never touch the joint, you decline politely
> > when your friend offers it to you.
> >
> > Now somehow the police show up. They charge your friend with possession of
> > weed, and they charge you with frequenting.
> >
> > You support that? Seriously? Do you also support our War on Drugs?
> >
> > Sunil
> >
> > ________________________________
> > CC: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> > From: thansen at moscow.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [corrected] Hmmm . . .
> > Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 00:48:44 -0700
> > To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
> >
> > It is really quite simple.
> >
> > I support the criminal charge of "frequenting a place where [illegal] drugs
> > are used."
> >
> > I simply do not believe that marijuana should be considered an illegal drug.
> >
> > I believe that the term "illegal" is implicit in the charge, otherwise
> > police would be staking out such facilities as Gritman Medical Center,
> > Moscow Family Medicine, and other "place[s] where drugs are used."
> >
> > Oops.  I almost added the Moscow Fire Department to that list.
> >
> > Seeya round town, Moscow.
> >
> > Tom Hansen
> > Moscow, Idaho
> >
> > "If not us, who?
> > If not now, when?"
> >
> > - Unknown
> >
> >
> >
> > On May 23, 2012, at 0:06, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Sunil,
> >
> > Yes, it does sound like his position is, "It is ok to smoke MJ, just not to
> > be hanging around while someone else is smoking it." Doesn't sound logical
> > or sound reasoning to me, I am sure he didn't think about it.
> >
> > I just think they need to end prohibition on MJ, it isn't working and just
> > funds violent crime. All that violence and mass murders in Mexico is the
> > result of making MJ illegal. If it was rich white people instead of poor
> > Mexicans getting their heads chopped off they wouldn't be ignoring the
> > situation like they are now. It is racism in its purist form.
> >
> > Donovan J. Arnold
> >
> > From: Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
> > To: vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [corrected] Hmmm . . .
> >
> > Tom,
> >
> > While I understand and agree with your sentiments here, I cannot square them
> > with your support last week of the nature of the frequenting charge. I hope
> > you mis-spoke when you took that position, or perhaps had not thought it
> > through.
> >
> > After all, if you don't think the individuals below should be charged, why
> > would you want someone present in the same place as the marijuana to be
> > charged?
> >
> > Sunil
> >
> > From: moscowcares at moscow.com
> > Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 15:20:56 -0700
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: [Vision2020] [corrected] Hmmm . . .
> >
> > Courtesy of the "Public Records" section of today's (May 21, 2012)
> > Mocow-Pullman Daily News.
> >
> > -----------------------------------
> >
> > WSU POLICE
> > Thursday
> > 7:30 a.m. - An 18-year-old man was arrested via prosecutor's summons for
> > alleged possession of marijuana less than 40 grams.
> > 8:27 a.m. - An 18-year-old man was arrested via prosecutor's summons for
> > alleged possession of marijuana less than 40 grams.
> > 10:07 a.m. - An 18-year-old woman was arrested via prosecutor's summons for
> > alleged possession of marijuana less than 40 grams.
> > -----------------------------------
> >
> > Two questions, V-Peeps . . .
> >
> > - How much ya figger it's costin' the Whitman County tax payers to arrest,
> > prosecute, and incarcerate these three misdemeanants?
> >
> > - How much tax revenue ya figger that the state of Washington would have
> > realized had those (approximately) 120 grams of marijuana been legalized,
> > regulated, and taxed?
> >
> > Seeya round town, Moscow.
> >
> > Tom Hansen
> > Moscow, Idaho
> >
> > "If not us, who?
> > If not now, when?"
> >
> > - Unknown
> >
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