[Vision2020] [corrected] Hmmm . . .

Tue May 22 21:18:50 PDT 2012

My goodness, Gary . . . I had no idea we were supposed to recognize you as a
drug expert!  Is your expertise based on personal experience?

I hate to burst your bubble, but I'll take the word of bone fide
credentialed experts in the field - and there are many -- over your claims.
For instance:

"But Larry Kobilinsky, professor of forensic science at John Jay College of
Criminal Justice in New York, told the AP that the THC amount was so low
that it may have been ingested days earlier and played no role in Martin's
behavior. He doubts the judge will even let it be used by the defense if
they try to introduce it at trial."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57437018-504083/trayvon-martin-shooti
ng-new-evidence-shows-wounds-on-zimmermans-head-thc-found-in-martins-body/

OR

http://tinyurl.com/7u2sumv

Saundra Lund

Moscow, ID

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its animals are treated.

~ Mahatma Gandhi

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Gary Crabtree
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:25 PM
To: Art Deco; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [corrected] Hmmm . . .

The point I was trying to make (and the one you and hansen had to go out of
your way to miss) is that different people react in different ways to
different substances. If you are at all honest with yourself you would have
to acknowledge that for every drunken lout you have ever encountered that
wanted to belligerently challenge one and all there were likely two who
wanted to wrap their arm around you and slur earnestly in your ear that that
you were their bestest friend ever. 

It is my understanding that much of the marijuana available in this day and
age is several orders of magnitude more potent then what ever Mr. Hansen and
yourself  likely "experienced" back in the day.  Effects of THC that you
conveniently neglect to mention include anxiety, agitation, confusion, and
paranoia. While I readily concede that the majority of potheads are
relatively harmless fools concerned primarily with the location of their
next bong hit and bag of Doritos, it is not unthinkable that a anxious and
paranoid doper could present a danger to himself or others around him.

To make the broad blanket claim that alcohol is disabling and disruptive
while marijuana is calming is absurd.

g

From: Art Deco <mailto:art.deco.studios at gmail.com>  

Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:20 PM

To: vision2020 at moscow.com 

Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [corrected] Hmmm . . .

Apparently, we are not reading the same news reports.

Yes, Martin had traces of the active ingredient (THC) of marijuana in his
system.  The facts are not clear, but as far as can be determined, Zimmerman
started following Martin, who in a phone call to his girl friend during the
episode paints the picture of Zimmerman as the aggressor/pursuer.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-arrest-now-abc-reveals-crucial-phone
/story?id=15959017

Attempting to blame Martin for his own death based on traces of THC in his
system is absurd,  Calming does not mean passive; it does not mean being
mentally deterred from self-defense or oblivious of threats from pursuing
zealots.

THC is an analgesic and calming agent:

Bill Zimmerman, PhD, et al., former President, Americans For Medical Rights
(AMR), noted in his 1998 book Is Marijuana The Right Medicine For You?:

"Before we describe what you should expect the first time you use marijuana,
you should know that many patients report that marijuana used for medical
purposes does not make them high at all. Patients fighting nausea, for
instance, often need to take only a few puffs to deal with their nausea, and
a few puffs may not be enough to produce any mental effects.

The sensation of being high is quite subtle. Typically, it differs slightly
from one person to the next and from one experience to the next. There is
often a sense of amusement and well-being (euphoria). There is a feeling of
relaxation and calm. [...] People who are high seem to enjoy art, as well as
the simple appearance of things, more profoundly than at other times. When
marijuana produces effects like these, and the user is accustomed to the
effects, it can be quite pleasurable, which helps explain why millions of
people use marijuana solely for recreational purposes."

Also:  http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_health_benefits_of_marijuana
See paragraph G.   

Google THC calm to attempt to educate yourself.

Maybe you should write a book:  Locksmith Logic, it would be placed in the
humor/comedy section and might be a best seller.

w.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Gary Crabtree <moscowlocksmith at gmail.com>
wrote:

According to the autopsy report, wasn't Trayvon Martin under the "calming"
influence of the chronic when he went all Chuck Liddell on George
Zimmerman's noggin?

g

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com>
wrote:

But Donovan, that would cost the beverage industries billions!  A cheap,
safer marijuana high would lower the income from more expensive alcohol
purchases.  It would also lower the need for law enforcement personnel to
investigate and prosecute drunken drivers and disturbers/fighters.

Remember:  Disabling, disruptiive alcohol high good!  Calming marijuana high
bad!  Bad, bad dog!

w. 

-- 
Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
art.deco.studios at gmail.com

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