[Vision2020] [corrected] Hmmm . . .

Tue May 22 20:47:11 PDT 2012

Gary,

You make the claim that the autopsy report shows the victim was under the influence. The autopsy does not show that, making your claim absurd. Also, since you weren't there, you don't know if he acted in self-defense.

Sunil

From: jampot at roadrunner.com
To: art.deco.studios at gmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 17:25:02 -0700
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [corrected] Hmmm . . .

The point I was trying to make (and the 
one you and hansen had to go out of your way to miss) is that 
different people react in different ways to different substances. If you are at 
all honest with yourself you would have to acknowledge that for every drunken 
lout you have ever encountered that wanted to belligerently challenge 
one and all there were likely two who wanted to wrap their arm around you 
and slur earnestly in your ear that that you were their bestest friend 
ever. 

It is my understanding that much of the 
marijuana available in this day and age is several orders of magnitude more 
potent then what ever Mr. Hansen and yourself  likely "experienced" back in 
the day.  Effects of THC that you conveniently neglect to mention 
include anxiety, agitation, confusion, and paranoia. While I readily concede 
that the majority of potheads are relatively harmless fools concerned primarily 
with the location of their next bong hit and bag of Doritos, it is not 
unthinkable that a anxious and paranoid doper could present a danger to himself 
or others around him.

To make the broad blanket claim that 
alcohol is disabling and disruptive while marijuana is calming is 
absurd.

g

From: Art Deco 
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:20 PM
To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [corrected] Hmmm . . .

Apparently, we are not reading the same news reports.

Yes, 
Martin had traces of the active ingredient (THC) of marijuana in his 
system.  The facts are not clear, but as far as can be determined, 
Zimmerman started following Martin, who in a phone call to his girl friend 
during the episode paints the picture of Zimmerman as the 
aggressor/pursuer.  http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-arrest-now-abc-reveals-crucial-phone/story?id=15959017

Attempting 
to blame Martin for his own death based on traces of THC in his system is 
absurd,  Calming does not mean passive; it does not mean being mentally 
deterred from self-defense or oblivious of threats from pursuing 
zealots.

THC is an analgesic and calming agent:

Bill Zimmerman, PhD, et al., 
former President, Americans For Medical Rights (AMR), noted in his 1998 book 
Is Marijuana The Right Medicine For You?:

"Before we describe what 
you should expect the first time you use marijuana, you should know that many 
patients report that marijuana used for medical purposes does not make them high 
at all. Patients fighting nausea, for instance, often need to take only a few 
puffs to deal with their nausea, and a few puffs may not be enough to produce 
any mental effects.

The sensation of being high is quite 
subtle. Typically, it differs slightly from one person to the next and from one 
experience to the next. There is often a sense of amusement and well-being 
(euphoria). There is a feeling of relaxation and 
calm. [...] People who are high seem to enjoy art, as well as the simple 
appearance of things, more profoundly than at other times. When marijuana 
produces effects like these, and the user is accustomed to the effects, it can 
be quite pleasurable, which helps explain why millions of people use marijuana 
solely for recreational purposes."
Also:  http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_health_benefits_of_marijuana  
See paragraph G.   

Google THC calm to attempt to 
educate yourself.
Maybe you should write a book:  
Locksmith Logic, it would be placed in the humor/comedy section and might 
be a best seller.

w.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Gary Crabtree <moscowlocksmith at gmail.com> wrote:

  According to the autopsy report, wasn't Trayvon Martin under the 
  "calming" influence of the chronic when he went all Chuck Liddell on 
  George Zimmerman's noggin?

  g

  On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com> wrote:

  But Donovan, that would cost the beverage industries 
    billions!  A cheap, safer marijuana high would lower the income from 
    more expensive alcohol purchases.  It would also lower the need for law 
    enforcement personnel to investigate and prosecute drunken drivers and 
    disturbers/fighters.

Remember:  Disabling, disruptiive alcohol 
    high good!  Calming marijuana high bad!  Bad, bad dog!

w. 

-- 
Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
art.deco.studios at gmail.com

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