[Vision2020] Something you need to know

[Sue Hovey]

Well, from what I have experienced from the folks who allocate the money—they don’t care, and it isn’t illegal.  Folks in the national and state media markets already know.  It isn’t a new practice...it’s a historic response.  

Sue 

From: Tom Hansen 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:43 AM
To: Sue Hovey 
Cc: Donovan Arnold ; Moscow Vision2020 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Something you need to know

Sue -

I am NOT encouraging Mr. Arnold to file a by-name complaint.  I (very much) respect people's privacy.

I am merely suggesting that if these ethical problems, mentioned by Mr. Arnold, exist and persist, he should shine the light of day on them by via the media or by reporting them to the authorities.  This can be accomplished without mentioning patients' names.

Sitting on one's butt, doing nothing, accomplishes just that . , , NOTHING!


Seeya round town, Moscow.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"If not us, who?
If not now, when?"

- Unknown



On May 2, 2012, at 11:18, "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com> wrote:


  Hey there.  HIPPA is about more than losing ones job.  Folks who work in the medical community are not only violating the law but violating the ethics of their chosen profession when they discuss medical conditions of their patients.  Donovan, you are right to withhold that information, but what you have written is important nonetheless.  I am my daughter’s guardian so I can release her information, and I can tell you, despite the fact she is on Medicaid and to this point has received most of her medications at no cost or with a small co-pay, she has a pharmaceutical drug bill every month.  I worry each time I open the envelope she’ll have lost something else.  She is uninsurable... and in the past year she has lost state support for counseling, vision, hearing aids, dental (yes, it has been restored but I can’t find a local dentist who will accept it,) and we have now been told she will be losing support for job coaching which has kept her employed for the past fifteen years.  Our three legislators fought a valiant fight for her during the past session when her budget was cut by more than 30%, and were told she wouldn’t be losing any more benefits.  That is proving to be not true.  

  Register as a Republican?  Not now, not ever.  

  Sue H. 

  From: Tom Hansen 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 7:45 AM
  To: Donovan Arnold 
  Cc: Moscow Vision2020 
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Something you need to know

  Let me see if I have this right . . .

  I am being deceitful and critically crippling my integrity by voting Republican in this year's primary.  But you (Donovan Arnold) are sanctified for not reporting to proper authorities, or at least the media, that you have been instructed to withhold medications from residents of hospices, nursing homes, and assisted-care facilities BECAUSE YOU ARE AFRAID OF LOSING YOUR JOB ? ?

  Here is my suggestion:  Grow an EFFING pair ! !

  Jeesh!


  Seeya round town, Moscow.

  Tom Hansen
  Moscow, Idaho

  "If not us, who?
  If not now, when?"

  - Unknown



  On May 1, 2012, at 7:25, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:


    I see it everyday at my job. We are told to HOLD medications for that reason. But sorry, HIPPA prevents me from sharing personal information about any person. Ask any person that assists in medication distribution at a nursing or assisted living facility. Or you can call a big pharmacy and ask a pharmacist if they ever cut medications off from people that have fallen behind on payments or their insurance agencies stop paying them. 

    Donovan Arnold

    From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
    To: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> 
    Cc: Moscow Vision2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
    Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 8:02 AM
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Something you need to know


    Mr. Arnold - 

    Do you have ANY evidence to support your claim? 


    Seeya round town, Moscow.

    Tom Hansen
    Moscow, Idaho

    "If not us, who?
    If not now, when?"

    - Unknown



    On May 1, 2012, at 6:43, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:


      I just thought I would let you all know, if you didn't know already, that people living in nursing and assisted living homes are cut off from medications they need to live or have a normal life because they don't have the money to pay. It is really f**king barbaric. But are government allows it. To me there could be nothing Christian about a country that cuts off medications needed by little 90 year old ladies and men that costs only a few cents to manufacture. Don't count on having your needs met when you are old and unable to take care of yourself anymore if our health care system doesn't change drastically and soon. There is a good possibility that you will be treated as trash once your productive years are gone and you don't put crisp $100 bills in some greedy bastard's pockets. 


      Donovan Arnold
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