[Vision2020] Moscow, Pennsylvana

Sun Mar 4 09:39:42 PST 2012

Hr. Hansen, 

You also seem to have Cold Waristis. The mental condition that makes residents of Moscow reinvent the origins of their town's name because of the Cold War with Moscow, Russia and not wanting to be called a Communist.

It is obvious Moscow, ID was named after Moscow, Russia. 

You're incorrect on so many counts, because you aren't staying up with the conversation or all the documented facts. Moscow, ID was named after Moscow, PA, which was named after Moscow, Russia. Thus Moscow, ID was named after Moscow, Russia, as well.

http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=14481

Samuel Neff, the Moscow Postmaster in 1875 when the name was chosen , was born in Moscow, PA. Coincidence, I think not. Mr. Neff later lived  in Moscow, IA, where he was also as a Postmaster, coincidence again, I think not. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow,_Idaho

In addition, Moscow, PA is near a Berlin, PA, Rome, PA, and numerous other towns and cities named after large European cities. Another coincidence! I think not. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin,_PA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome,_PA

You are also wrong again on the meaning. There is no where on the planet Earth, where Moscow means "City of Brotherly Love" in any language, at any time. This is Philadelphia , PA nickname, because it means "Brotherly" in Greek. It was chosen by William  Penn Jr. The son in which the territory Pennsylvania  (Penn's Forrest") was selected by British Royalties . As a side note, Moscow wasn't even a city in 1875, it was a town, a distinction  well noted in 1875. 's

http://www.helium.com/knowledge/158378-city-of-brotherly-love-how-philadelphia-got-its-nickname

Moscow. Russia, was named after the Moscow River in abt. 1154, from which the banks of the river the city was formed. Postmaster Neff chose it because that was where he was born, just as he chose Moscow, IA.

The only reason the facts are ignored is because we were at war with Moscow, Russia for the better part of two  generations . The history of Moscow was well known before that time had you have talked to people that were adults before the Cold War. 

Moscow was and is a well known city, one of the greatest and most respected in the world in 1875, and certainly known by people in Moscow, ID in 1875 when it was named. If, Moscow, ID was for certain not taken from Moscow, Russia, but another source, they would have made that known to everyone beyond any uncertainly. Further, they most likely would have changed its spelling in the least. 

Moscow, ID was named after Moscow, Russia. And it is as obvious to the educated mind as the streets of Washington, Jefferson, and Adams were named after the former Presidents. 

Donovan Arnold
From: Moscow Cares <moscowcares at moscow.com>
To: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> 
Cc: Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com>; Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>; Wayne Krauss <wkrauss at ci.moscow.id.us>; Tim Brown <tbrown at ci.moscow.id.us>; Moscow Vision 2020 <Vision2020 at moscow.com>; Walter Steed <wmsteed at ci.moscow.id.us>; Sue Scott <sscott at ci.moscow.id.us>; Dan Carscallen <dcarscallen at ci.moscow.id.us>; Nancy Chaney <nchaney at ci.moscow.id.us>; Lois Blackburn <loisb at q.com>; Tom Lamar <tlamar at ci.moscow.id.us>; kburns at ci.moscow.id.us; Stephanie Kalasz <skalasz at ci.moscow.id.us> 
Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Moscow, Pennsylvana

Wrong, Mr. Arnold.

Courtesy of the Latah County Historical Society at:
http://users.moscow.com/lchs/history.html#moscow 

"The origin of the name Moscow has long been disputed. There is no evidence that it was named by a Russian or for a Russian city. What can be verified is this: five of the settlers met to choose a proper name. They wanted a prestigious name, one that would bode well for the town. They failed to come to an agreement quickly, and so they designated the postmaster, Samuel Neff, to complete the official papers. He chose Moscow, which because of its favorable meaning, ‘city of brotherly love,’ met the desired requirements. An interesting sidelight to the choice is that Neff was born in Moscow, Pennsylvania and later moved to Moscow, Iowa."

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Sidebar: "Moscow Cares" remains very interested in sponsoring a competition among local song writers and musicians to create a signature song for Moscow (the one in Idaho) with prizes for first place ($2,000), second place ($1,000), and third place ($500).  

"Moscow Cares", if possible, would like to have this competition conducted on a Farmers Market Saturday with judging by the Moscow Arts Commission.

The Moscow Arts Department has been emailed concerning this offer.  As of yet, no response.

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Seeya later, Moscow.

Tom "a former fetus, although not born in Moscow, got there as soon as he could" Hansen
Post Falls, Idaho

"If not us, who?
If not now, when?"

- Unknown

On Mar 3, 2012, at 18:51, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Time-lines don't seem to match. 1875 was when Moscow was named Moscow and Moscow, PA wasn't established as Moscow until 1891. 
> 
>As I understood the case to be, Moscow, ID, Moscow, VT, and Moscow, PA, were all named after Moscow, Russia. When the Moscow area was named Hog Heaven and the city Paradise Valley because the soil when wet was great for pigs, (guess it still is) people didn't like that name so the people in Hog's Heaven voted on changing it. A large number of residents in Moscow at the time were immigrants from Russia, so Moscow got the largest backing for a new name. 
> 
> I think the confusion on the orgin of the name comes intentionally because people like to deny Moscow was named after Moscow, Russia because we were at war with the Soviet Union for about 50 years in the Cold War, and nobody wanted to be associated with "The Evil Empire" as Reagan characterized it. 
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>The other story is five men decided the name, including one from Russia, and a postmaster who was born in Moscow, PA, picked the name. However, since I don't believe that Moscow, PA existed yet, in 1875, I don't see how a postmaster could be born in a town yet to exist. 
> 
>In either case, Moscow was named directly or indirectly after the Moscow, Russia, which was named after the Moscow River in 1154, and either means Bear River, Mother River, or Marshy River, take your pick. 
> 
>Russia is a beautiful country with beautiful people and a long rich history. I like the name Moscow, and I like that we have a name used by so few cities. 
> 
>Donovan Arnold
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>From: Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com>
>To: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> 
>Cc: Lois Blackburn <loisb at q.com>; Tim Brown <tbrown at ci.moscow.id.us>; Moscow Vision 2020 <Vision2020 at moscow.com>; Walter Steed <wmsteed at ci.moscow.id.us>; Sue Scott <sscott at ci.moscow.id.us>; Wayne Krauss <wkrauss at ci.moscow.id.us>; Nancy Chaney <nchaney at ci.moscow.id.us>; Dan Carscallen <dcarscallen at ci.moscow.id.us>; Tom Lamar <tlamar at ci.moscow.id.us> 
>Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2012 4:20 PM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Moscow, Pennsylvana
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>Just think:  At this moment there could be another Tom Hansen in Moscow, PA pondering similar thoughts. (Cue Twilight Zone theme music)
>
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>On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
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>It is my opinion that Moscow, Idaho was named after Moscow, Pennsylvania; although Moscow, Pennsylvania was named after Moscow, Russia.
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>>What makes me say that?
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>>Moscow, Idaho's Postmaster (back in the 1870s when "Hog Heaven, Idaho" was renamed "Moscow, Idaho") migrated from Moscow, Pennsylvania.
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>>Not only that, but look at the similarities . . .
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>>Moscow Community Events
>>http://www.moscowboro.com/html/events.html
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>>Moscow Borough Information Guide
>>http://www.moscowboro.com/html/guide.html
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>>And jus' read . . .
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>>The Moscow Borough Newsletter
>>http://www.moscowboro.com/html/newsletter.html
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>>Welcome to Moscow, Pennsylvania
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>>Whatcha think, Moscow (Idaho)
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>>Seeya later, Moscow.
>>
>>Tom Hansen
>>Post Falls, Idaho
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>>"If not us, who?
>>If not now, when?"
>>
>>- Unknown
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