[Vision2020] So, This is What Being a Libertarian is All About . . .

[Donovan Arnold]

The government solves problems all the time. It solves the problems of Bank of America, Wal-Mart, Fannie Mae, The Bush Family, Saudi Royalty, Exxon Mobile, and unemployment in China for example. The problems it doesn't solve are the problems of the poor, the sick, the retired, people with disabilities, wounded soldiers, children, women, parents, the unemployed, farmers, blue collar workers, students, and middle class Americans. 
 
Donovan J. Arnold

From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
To: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> 
Cc: Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] So, This is What Being a Libertarian is All About . . .

Personally I'm not incensed. But the guy is NOT a libertarian. Someone
who is fiscally conservative yet doesn't mind government interference
in our private lives is not anti-government. He actually believes that
the government can help solve problems, right?

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:54 PM, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
> Tom
> I doubt that you would be as incensed about similar actions done by liberals. They do it all the time. I don't like it regardless  of who does it. I would favor a law that says only amendments that are germane to the main bill can be added.
> Roger
> -----Original message-----
> From: Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 08:07:49 -0700
> To: Moscow Vision 2020 vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] So, This is What Being a Libertarian is All About . . .
>
>> Is this what the Libertarians' battle cry of "Less Government!" is all about?
>>
>> Courtesy of Outside the Beltway at:
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>> http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/rand-paul-trying-to-add-personhood-amendment-to-flood-insurance-bill/
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>> Rand Paul Trying To Add “Personhood” Amendment To Flood Insurance Bill
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>> WASHINGTON — Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) moved this week to hold a noncontroversial flood insurance bill hostage until the Senate agrees that life begins at fertilization.
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>> The bill, which would financially boost the National Flood Insurance Program on the cusp of hurricane season, had been expected to pass easily in the Senate. But since Paul on Monday offered an unrelated “fetal personhood” amendment, which would give legal protections to fetuses from the moment of fertilization, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) is threatening to halt progress on the legislation.
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>> “I’m told last night that one of our Republican senators wants to offer an amendment — listen to this one — wants to offer an amendment on when life begins,” Reid said on the Senate floor Tuesday. “I am not going to put up with that on flood insurance. I can be condemned by outside sources; my friends can say, ‘Let them have a vote on it.’ There will not be a vote on that on flood insurance We’ll either do flood insurance with the amendments that deal with flood insurance, or we won’t do it. We’ll have an extension”
>>
>> Reid has allowed Republicans to attach unrelated amendments to other important bills in the past few months. Most notably, he let the Senate vote on a contraception-related amendment, proposed by Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), to a transportation bill. But Reid called Paul’s measure “ridiculous” and “outlandish,” and asked Republicans to deal with him on “their side of the aisle.”
>> Paul told reporters on Tuesday afternoon that he is “just trying to get a vote for people who elected me.”
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>> “Can you believe that they’re exasperated with me?” he said, responding to criticism of his attempt to attach the unrelated amendment. “If [Reid will] give me a freestanding vote, I’ll take a freestanding vote any time.”
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>> Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's (D-NV) response . . .
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>> “I am not going to put up with that on flood insurance.  I can be condemned by outside sources — my friends can say, ‘Let them have a vote on it.’ There will not be a vote on that on flood insurance. We’ll either do flood insurance with the amendments that deal with flood insurance, or we won’t do it. We’ll have an extension.”
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdw36CZSbeI
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>>
>> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>> "If not us, who?
>> If not now, when?"
>>
>> - Unknown
>>
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