[Vision2020] Case No. CV-2011-1234 (Germer Const., Inc. v. Greensides Inc, Wilson, Gray, and Hoffman)

Gary Crabtree jampot at roadrunner.com
Tue Jun 26 05:57:53 PDT 2012


One can't help but think that this entire subject line comes down to a rather ugly example of schadenfreude from the usual subjects.

g

ooh ooh ooh, can I say who they are boss? Can I? Huh, huh, can I?


From: Sunil Ramalingam 
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 10:38 PM
Cc: vision 2020 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Case No. CV-2011-1234 (Germer Const., Inc. v. Greensides Inc, Wilson, Gray, and Hoffman)


Tom, 

Yes, there are either criminal or civil cases in our legal system. I just don't know what claim you think Paul would have against you; I can't think of anything. Granted, I'm not trying very hard, but I doubt he has any reason based on this exchange.

And I too wondered why you posted Hoffman's information here. 

Sunil



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From: thansen at moscow.com
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:49:14 -0700
To: godshatter at yahoo.com
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Case No. CV-2011-1234 (Germer Const., Inc. v. Greensides Inc, Wilson, Gray, and Hoffman)


I was not referring to a criminal complaint.  


There are two litigious "roads" in the Nifty Fifty (USA); one marked "criminal" and one marked "civil".  Right, Sunil?


To heck with it!  I am truly beginning to tire of your 6-year-old antics of responding to every posted explanation with your infantile "why".


Seeya round town, Moscow.


Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho


"If not us, who?
If not now, when?"


- Unknown





On Jun 25, 2012, at 18:36, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:



  I never said I thought it was illegal, just not very nice.

  Paul

  On 06/25/2012 06:25 PM, Moscow Cares wrote:

    Mr. Rumelhart -


    You certainly spend an inordinate amount of time on. Topic of which you claim that you have no interest.


    Furthermore, and FINALLY, if you feel that I am invading somebody's privacy, I suggest that you grow the proverbial "pair" and file a complaint.


    'Till then, I suggest you buckle up and hold on . . . 


    Seeya round town, Moscow.


    Tom Hansen
    Moscow, Idaho


    "If not us, who?
    If not now, when?"


    - Unknown





    On Jun 25, 2012, at 18:01, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:



      You've spent a lot of time denigrating my character, yet I'm not the one posting someone's address on this list.  You've also spent a fair amount of time guessing my views on this subject, but have fallen far from the mark.  I don't have an opinion about this case, because it's simply a contract dispute.  You don't know who is right and who is wrong, and neither do I.  Nor do I really care.  I just don't like to see someone's address posted as a sly sort of "this is where he lives, if you want to talk to him, he's at this address".  People should be able to feel secure in their own homes without complete strangers confronting them about a private matter.  This used to be considered unethical on this site, but that appears to be true only when they aren't somehow connected to Doug.

      But, whatever.  It's been posted and the toothpaste can't be put back in the tube.  I'd just like to naively suggest that folks leave this guy in peace.  People who don't belong to this lawsuit don't have any reason to confront this guy, and people involved in this lawsuit will hopefully have been briefed by their lawyer not to do so.

      Paul

      On 06/25/2012 05:41 PM, Art Deco wrote:

        Well Paul, let's make a guess.  You have been taking instruction from "regular guy" (and deadbeat) Douglas Wilson entitled "Logic Without Imagination" or something similar.

        Just because someone would like a little face time with Hoffmann does not mean they want to bully him or beat him up.  Of course without imagination, it is difficult for you to think of other alternatives.  You might try it as an exercise in Non-Wilsonian Logic.

        Also the lack of imagination traps into restricting the interested parties to V2020 members.  That is not so by a long shot.  Items from v2020 are frequently forwarded to non-members, and in Hoffmann's case, probably some of this forwards go to Bend and Redmond, Oregon.

        You appear to have either no enterprise values and/or completely ignorant of the milieu of which the Germer deadbeat action is a bit of.  I doubt that anyone on the list wishes to take the time and effort to let you in on the big non-secrets given your past actions as an ardent apologist for Wilson.

        I had thought that we would be chastised by Gary Crabtree, But so far, not.  But whatever other views Crabtree may have, he is a believer in enterprise and a businessman who provides and warrants his goods and services and expects to be paid promptly for them.  Hence it is not unreasonable to assume that he also abhors deadbeats.  It is highly probable that Crabtree also knows Larry Germer and would not be adverse to hearing his side of the story directly from him.

        w.


        On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:

          Glad to hear it.  What was your intent?


          Paul



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          From: Moscow Cares <moscowcares at moscow.com>

          To: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> 
          Cc: Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com>; "vision2020 at moscow.com" <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
          Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 4:06 PM 

          Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Case No. CV-2011-1234 (Germer Const., Inc. v. Greensides Inc, Wilson, Gray, and Hoffman)



          I really don't feel it necessary to explain to Mr. Rumelhart that my intention was neither bullying nor to encourage physical confrontation.


          'Nuff said.


          Seeya round town, Moscow.


          Tom Hansen
          Moscow, Idaho


          "If not us, who?
          If not now, when?"


          - Unknown





          On Jun 25, 2012, at 15:57, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:


            Is that why Mr. Hansen posted his address?  So people on this list could find him and confront him physically?


            No thank you.


            Let the courts work it out and leave the 5th grade bullying behind.  It's a private matter between two companies.


            I swear, any mention of Doug Wilson or Christ Church and you guys leave your common sense locked in a drawer somewhere.



            Paul




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            From: Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com>
            To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
            Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:39 PM
            Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Case No. CV-2011-1234 (Germer Const., Inc. v. Greensides Inc, Wilson, Gray, and Hoffman)



            @Paul:

            Sorry to report neither the world nor v2020 revolves around you.  However, there is a strong probability that a number of people or their agents would like a little face time with Hoffman.

            w.


            On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

              Paul Rumelhart inquires:


              "Now that you've posted this gentleman's address on this list, what is it that you would like me to do with this information?"


              Can I tell him what to with it, Wayne?  Huh?  Can I?  Can I?



              Seeya round town, Moscow.


              Tom Hansen
              Moscow, Idaho


              "If not us, who?
              If not now, when?"


              - Unknown





              On Jun 25, 2012, at 14:01, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:


                Now that you've posted this gentleman's address on this list, what is it that you would like me to do with this information?



            -- 
            Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
            art.deco.studios at gmail.com





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