[Vision2020] Handgun Clinic

Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
Mon Jun 25 13:47:34 PDT 2012


So, we are all in agreement that giving a loaded weapon to a drunken, high, mentally imbalanced freak-toid with irrational violent tendencies should be considered wrong.

Tell us more about this self-defense gun clinic.

Seeya round town, Moscow.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"If not us, who?
If not now, when?"

- Unknown



On Jun 25, 2012, at 13:06, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:

> And certain political affiliations ... Lol
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 25, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> So is mixing guns with various licit and illicit drugs, certain mental health problems, and certain behavioral attitudes and behaviors.
>> 
>> w.
>> 
>> On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 9:30 PM, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
>> Agreed. Guns and alcohol are a bad combination.
>> Roger
>> -----Original message-----
>> From: "Saundra Lund" v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm
>> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 13:38:31 -0700
>> To: "'lfalen'" lfalen at turbonet.com, "'Art Deco'" art.deco.studios at gmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Handgun Clinic
>> 
>> > Good point, Roger, and I hope you'd add all those weekend hunters who think
>> > drinking alcohol & hunting mix.
>> >
>> > I'm not up on gun laws at all, and I *do* know that those with CCW permits
>> > in Idaho can't be "under the influence" (another law that ID law enforcement
>> > seems to turn a blind eye to), but is there a prohibition against drinking
>> > alcohol & being in the possession of deadly weapons like firearms on public
>> > lands?  If so, then it's definitely *not* being adequately enforced -- it
>> > seems to me those fines alone would make Idaho rich!
>> >
>> > If not, why not?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Saundra
>> > Moscow, ID
>> >
>> > Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.
>> > ~ Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
>> > On Behalf Of lfalen
>> > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 1:16 PM
>> > To: Art Deco; vision2020 at moscow.com
>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Handgun Clinic
>> >
>> > I would concur with that. I have seen many hunters that did not take proper
>> > safety precautions. Some of these include carrying a live round in the
>> > chamber and shooting at something on the skyline.
>> > Roger
>> > -----Original message-----
>> > From: Art Deco art.deco.studios at gmail.com
>> > Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 05:41:01 -0700
>> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Handgun Clinic
>> >
>> > > By the time I was 10 years old I was already very proficient with the
>> > > two handguns, three rifles, and a shotgun we owned.  My father, a
>> > > natural and outrageously accurate marksman, taught me me not only how
>> > > to shoot with extreme accuracy, but insisted on the utmost safety
>> > > precautions and procedures.  That early training has been useful to
>> > > me, and at times saved me from harassment, bodily harm, death, and loss of
>> > property.
>> > >
>> > > If people are going to possess weapons, then it is important for their
>> > > own and others (particularly children in the family or on the
>> > > premises) well being to handle weapons safely and, if the need arises,
>> > shoot accurately.
>> > >
>> > > The problem arises when weapons training does not include lessons
>> > > about the discretion and legal issues of when to use the weapons.
>> > > Without wanting to get into a long wrangle, I believe strongly in the
>> > > right of self defense, but none-the-less, I think there are some that
>> > > ought not be allowed to carry weapons because of past serious criminal
>> > > violations and past or current mental health problems.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > w.
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > And the very day I turn 88 I'll do that.  I just added it to my
>> > > > bucket list.
>> > > >
>> > > > Sue h
>> > > >
>> > > > Sent from my iPad Sue Hovey
>> > > >
>> > > > On Jun 23, 2012, at 9:33 PM, Donovan Arnold
>> > > > <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > "I think that all women should get concealed carry permits."--Roger
>> > > >
>> > > > I cannot deny the entertainment value that would create when someone
>> > > > tries to rob an 88 year old lady and she pulls out her 44 magnum,
>> > > > lodges it between two of his ribs and says,
>> > > >
>> > > > "With my advanced dementia, I cannot seem to recall if I already
>> > > > shot four or five thugs since my last reload. So the real question
>> > > > to ask yourself  is, 'Do I feel lucky?' Well do ya, punk?"
>> > > >
>> > > > Donovan J. Arnold
>> > > >
>> > > >   *From:* lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
>> > > > *To:* Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>; Moscow Vision 2020 <
>> > > > vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> > > > *Sent:* Saturday, June 23, 2012 9:44 PM
>> > > > *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Handgun Clinic
>> > > >
>> > > > I think that all women should get concealed carry permits.
>> > > > Roger
>> > > > -----Original message-----
>> > > > From: Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
>> > > > Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 08:28:17 -0700
>> > > > To: Moscow Vision 2020 vision2020 at moscow.com
>> > > > Subject: [Vision2020] Handgun Clinic
>> > > >
>> > > > > Courtesy of Vera "The INKSTER" White in today's (June 23, 2012)
>> > > > Moscow-Pullman Daily News.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -----------------------------------
>> > > > > Barbecue - and handgun clinic, too - set for today
>> > > > >
>> > > > >  . .
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Nothing says God like handguns. That's what the INKster thought
>> > > > > when
>> > > > she read a June 18 Christ Church email from Larry Cernik reminding
>> > > > members of his handgun clinic today from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. at a
>> > > > location not mentioned in his notice.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Participants had to register in advance for the Level 1 Basic
>> > > > > Handgun
>> > > > Clinic, which cost $50 per person.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > "This course is designed to bring you up to speed with the basic
>> > > > principles of employing a handgun in self-defense," Cernik wrote.
>> > > > "You will be taught these principles and be given the opportunity to
>> > > > practice and demonstrate them on the range here. You will go home
>> > > > with a number of drills to practice which, if done faithfully, will
>> > > > increase your proficiency."
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Participants were encouraged to bring their own handgun, 100
>> > > > > rounds of
>> > > > ammunition and a holster. And of course writing materials to take notes.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > (Cernik didn't say whether this was a male only event, but the
>> > > > > INKsteris sure them
>> > > > Kirkers wouldn't want their women folk learning how to use a handgun).
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -----------------------------------
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Vera:  Would you be ever so kind as to provide me the particulars
>> > > > > (who,
>> > > > when, where, etc.) concerning registration for future handgun
>> > > > clinics (if any)? If possible, email me, ok?
>> > > > > I would be very interested in attending the clinic . . . camera in
>> > hand.
>> > > > Since this clinic is open to the public, my willingness to
>> > > > photograph a session should be welcomed advertising for the clinic
>> > organizers.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Seeya round town, Moscow.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Tom Hansen
>> > > > > Moscow, Idaho
>> > > > >
>> > > > > "If not us, who?
>> > > > > If not now, when?"
>> > > > >
>> > > > > - Unknown
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
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>> > > Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
>> > > art.deco.studios at gmail.com
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>> Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
>> art.deco.studios at gmail.com
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