<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>So, we are all in agreement that giving a loaded weapon to a drunken, high, mentally imbalanced freak-toid with irrational violent tendencies should be considered wrong.</div><div><br></div><div>Tell us more about this self-defense gun clinic.<br><br><div>Seeya round town, Moscow.</div><div><br></div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br></div><div>"If not us, who?</div><div>If not now, when?"</div><div><br></div><div>- Unknown</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Jun 25, 2012, at 13:06, Joe Campbell <<a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>And certain political affiliations ... Lol<br><br><br></div><div><br>On Jun 25, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Art Deco <<a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com">art.deco.studios@gmail.com</a></a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>So is mixing guns with various licit and illicit drugs, certain mental health problems, and certain behavioral attitudes and behaviors.<br><br>w.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 9:30 PM, lfalen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen@turbonet.com</a></a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Agreed. Guns and alcohol are a bad combination.<br>
Roger<br>
<div class="im">-----Original message-----<br>
From: "Saundra Lund" <a href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm"><a href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</a></a><br>
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 13:38:31 -0700<br>
To: "'lfalen'" <a href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com"><a href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen@turbonet.com</a></a>, "'Art Deco'" <a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com">art.deco.studios@gmail.com</a></a>, <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a><br>
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Handgun Clinic<br>
<br>
> Good point, Roger, and I hope you'd add all those weekend hunters who think<br>
> drinking alcohol & hunting mix.<br>
><br>
> I'm not up on gun laws at all, and I *do* know that those with CCW permits<br>
> in Idaho can't be "under the influence" (another law that ID law enforcement<br>
> seems to turn a blind eye to), but is there a prohibition against drinking<br>
> alcohol & being in the possession of deadly weapons like firearms on public<br>
> lands? If so, then it's definitely *not* being adequately enforced -- it<br>
> seems to me those fines alone would make Idaho rich!<br>
><br>
> If not, why not?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Saundra<br>
> Moscow, ID<br>
><br>
> Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.<br>
> ~ Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.<br>
><br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a></a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a></a>]<br>
> On Behalf Of lfalen<br>
> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 1:16 PM<br>
> To: Art Deco; <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a><br>
</div><div class="im">> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Handgun Clinic<br>
><br>
</div><div class="im">> I would concur with that. I have seen many hunters that did not take proper<br>
> safety precautions. Some of these include carrying a live round in the<br>
> chamber and shooting at something on the skyline.<br>
> Roger<br>
> -----Original message-----<br>
> From: Art Deco <a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com">art.deco.studios@gmail.com</a></a><br>
> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 05:41:01 -0700<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a><br>
</div><div class="im">> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Handgun Clinic<br>
><br>
</div><div class="im">> > By the time I was 10 years old I was already very proficient with the<br>
> > two handguns, three rifles, and a shotgun we owned. My father, a<br>
> > natural and outrageously accurate marksman, taught me me not only how<br>
> > to shoot with extreme accuracy, but insisted on the utmost safety<br>
> > precautions and procedures. That early training has been useful to<br>
> > me, and at times saved me from harassment, bodily harm, death, and loss of<br>
> property.<br>
> ><br>
> > If people are going to possess weapons, then it is important for their<br>
> > own and others (particularly children in the family or on the<br>
> > premises) well being to handle weapons safely and, if the need arises,<br>
> shoot accurately.<br>
> ><br>
> > The problem arises when weapons training does not include lessons<br>
> > about the discretion and legal issues of when to use the weapons.<br>
> > Without wanting to get into a long wrangle, I believe strongly in the<br>
> > right of self defense, but none-the-less, I think there are some that<br>
> > ought not be allowed to carry weapons because of past serious criminal<br>
> > violations and past or current mental health problems.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > w.<br>
> ><br>
> > On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Sue Hovey <<a href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">suehovey@moscow.com</a></a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > > And the very day I turn 88 I'll do that. I just added it to my<br>
> > > bucket list.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Sue h<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Sent from my iPad Sue Hovey<br>
> > ><br>
</div>> > > On Jun 23, 2012, at 9:33 PM, Donovan Arnold<br>
> > > <<a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"><a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a></a>><br>
<div><div class="h5">> > > wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > "I think that all women should get concealed carry permits."--Roger<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I cannot deny the entertainment value that would create when someone<br>
> > > tries to rob an 88 year old lady and she pulls out her 44 magnum,<br>
> > > lodges it between two of his ribs and says,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > "With my advanced dementia, I cannot seem to recall if I already<br>
> > > shot four or five thugs since my last reload. So the real question<br>
> > > to ask yourself is, 'Do I feel lucky?' Well do ya, punk?"<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Donovan J. Arnold<br>
> > ><br>
> > > *From:* lfalen <<a href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com"><a href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen@turbonet.com</a></a>><br>
> > > *To:* Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a></a>>; Moscow Vision 2020 <<br>
> > > <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a>><br>
> > > *Sent:* Saturday, June 23, 2012 9:44 PM<br>
> > > *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Handgun Clinic<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I think that all women should get concealed carry permits.<br>
> > > Roger<br>
> > > -----Original message-----<br>
> > > From: Tom Hansen <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a></a><br>
> > > Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 08:28:17 -0700<br>
> > > To: Moscow Vision 2020 <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a><br>
> > > Subject: [Vision2020] Handgun Clinic<br>
> > ><br>
> > > > Courtesy of Vera "The INKSTER" White in today's (June 23, 2012)<br>
> > > Moscow-Pullman Daily News.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > -----------------------------------<br>
> > > > Barbecue - and handgun clinic, too - set for today<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > . .<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Nothing says God like handguns. That's what the INKster thought<br>
> > > > when<br>
> > > she read a June 18 Christ Church email from Larry Cernik reminding<br>
> > > members of his handgun clinic today from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. at a<br>
> > > location not mentioned in his notice.<br>
> > > ><br>
</div></div><div class="im">> > > > Participants had to register in advance for the Level 1 Basic<br>
> > > > Handgun<br>
> > > Clinic, which cost $50 per person.<br>
> > > ><br>
</div><div class="im">> > > > "This course is designed to bring you up to speed with the basic<br>
> > > principles of employing a handgun in self-defense," Cernik wrote.<br>
</div><div class="im">> > > "You will be taught these principles and be given the opportunity to<br>
> > > practice and demonstrate them on the range here. You will go home<br>
> > > with a number of drills to practice which, if done faithfully, will<br>
> > > increase your proficiency."<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Participants were encouraged to bring their own handgun, 100<br>
> > > > rounds of<br>
> > > ammunition and a holster. And of course writing materials to take notes.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > (Cernik didn't say whether this was a male only event, but the<br>
> > > > INKsteris sure them<br>
> > > Kirkers wouldn't want their women folk learning how to use a handgun).<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > -----------------------------------<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Vera: Would you be ever so kind as to provide me the particulars<br>
> > > > (who,<br>
> > > when, where, etc.) concerning registration for future handgun<br>
> > > clinics (if any)? If possible, email me, ok?<br>
> > > > I would be very interested in attending the clinic . . . camera in<br>
> hand.<br>
> > > Since this clinic is open to the public, my willingness to<br>
> > > photograph a session should be welcomed advertising for the clinic<br>
> organizers.<br>
> > > ><br>
</div><div class="im">> > > > Seeya round town, Moscow.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Tom Hansen<br>
> > > > Moscow, Idaho<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > "If not us, who?<br>
> > > > If not now, when?"<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > - Unknown<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > ><br>
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