[Vision2020] Fwd: About Evidence

[Art Deco]

Slipped again.  Thank you, Ken

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From: Kenneth Marcy <kmmos1 at frontier.com>
Date: Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] About Evidence
To: Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com>


 Wayne:

Did you intend to send this to Donovan rather than to me?


Ken



On 7/18/2012 12:17 PM, Art Deco wrote:

Donovan:

You have not addressed the questions asked.  You merely use unproven claims
to attempt to avoid answering the questions, to wit:

Exactly what is the "testament" of 6 billion people?  Do these so-called
testaments agree with each other?  What exactly is the evidential component
of their evidence?

At one time most living beings thought the world was flat.  Is the world
flat?

At one time most living beings though mental illness was caused by
possession by devils/demons/etc?  Are devils/demons/etc the cause of mental
illness?

At one time most living beings thought the sun revolved around the earth.
Does the sun revolve around the earth?

You have failed to understand the problem of asserting knowledge claims
without verifiable evidence.  Just because someone is greatly enamored by a
fantasy does not mean it is true.  A theory is true if it leads to true
predictions, else not.

If people want to believe in various gods and goddesses, but do attempt to
force others to act in accordance with their beliefs, the problem becomes
greatly diminished.  It becomes a problem when some says "My God dictates
that you shall do X or shall not do Y" and then passes laws without any or
very little other evidence based justification to enforce this fantasy.

That's called theocracy or religious dictatorship.  It leads to things like
The Inquisition and The Crusades.  You can choose to enable such, but for
many us unwilling to sacrifice personal freedom and what we believe the
overall well being of humankind and other beings, no thanks.


w.

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Kenneth Marcy <kmmos1 at frontier.com> wrote:

>  On 7/18/2012 10:54 AM, Donovan Arnold wrote:
>
>  Like the financial planners of today got it all figured out right?
>
>
>  The disconcerting non-specificity of your reference 'it' notwithstanding,
> the fact of the matter is that our seriously under-regulated and
> significantly over-connected system of financial transaction data
> transmission and storage poses uncomprehended dangers to persons and
> organizations whose financial affairs have been reduced to electronic
> patterns stored on machines they neither own nor control. The opportunities
> for, and the dangers of, large-scale electronic malfeasance regarding
> financial affairs that should be maintained as fiduciary trusts, but are
> not, has never been greater.
>
> Unfortunately, the drive for private profits from among those electronic
> patterns has never been so persistent or so pervasive, with the result that
> financial wealth and control of assets has never been so great or
> concentrated among so few. The system is increasingly designed so as to not
> require large robberies at particular time points, but to do as effectively
> or better the same transfer of wealth and control by continual erosion via
> a plethora of individually small, but collectively substantial, financially
> corrosive agents.
>
>
> Ken
>
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