Slipped again. Thank you, Ken<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Kenneth Marcy</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kmmos1@frontier.com">kmmos1@frontier.com</a>></span><br>
Date: Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:38 PM<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] About Evidence<br>To: Art Deco <<a href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com">art.deco.studios@gmail.com</a>><br><br><br>
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<div>Wayne:<br>
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Did you intend to send this to Donovan rather than to me?<br>
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Ken<div><div class="h5"><br>
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On 7/18/2012 12:17 PM, Art Deco wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Donovan: <br>
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You have not addressed the questions asked. You merely use
unproven claims to attempt to avoid answering the questions, to
wit:<br>
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Exactly what is the "testament" of 6 billion people? Do these
so-called testaments agree with each other? What exactly is the
evidential component of their evidence?<br>
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At one time most living beings thought the world was flat. Is the
world flat?<br>
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At one time most living beings though mental illness was caused by
possession by devils/demons/etc? Are devils/demons/etc the cause
of mental illness?<br>
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At one time most living beings thought the sun revolved around the
earth. Does the sun revolve around the earth?<br>
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You have failed to understand the problem of asserting knowledge
claims without verifiable evidence. Just because someone is
greatly enamored by a fantasy does not mean it is true. A theory
is true if it leads to true predictions, else not.<br>
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If people want to believe in various gods and goddesses, but do
attempt to force others to act in accordance with their beliefs,
the problem becomes greatly diminished. It becomes a problem when
some says "My God dictates that you shall do X or shall not do Y"
and then passes laws without any or very little other evidence
based justification to enforce this fantasy.<br>
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That's called theocracy or religious dictatorship. It leads to
things like The Inquisition and The Crusades. You can choose to
enable such, but for many us unwilling to sacrifice personal
freedom and what we believe the overall well being of humankind
and other beings, no thanks.<br>
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w.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Kenneth
Marcy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kmmos1@frontier.com" target="_blank">kmmos1@frontier.com</a>></span>
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<div>On 7/18/2012 10:54 AM, Donovan Arnold wrote:<br>
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<div><span>Like the financial planners of today got it
all figured out right?</span></div>
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The disconcerting non-specificity of your reference 'it'
notwithstanding, the fact of the matter is that our
seriously under-regulated and significantly over-connected
system of financial transaction data transmission and
storage poses uncomprehended dangers to persons and
organizations whose financial affairs have been reduced to
electronic patterns stored on machines they neither own nor
control. The opportunities for, and the dangers of,
large-scale electronic malfeasance regarding financial
affairs that should be maintained as fiduciary trusts, but
are not, has never been greater.<br>
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Unfortunately, the drive for private profits from among
those electronic patterns has never been so persistent or so
pervasive, with the result that financial wealth and control
of assets has never been so great or concentrated among so
few. The system is increasingly designed so as to not
require large robberies at particular time points, but to do
as effectively or better the same transfer of wealth and
control by continual erosion via a plethora of individually
small, but collectively substantial, financially corrosive
agents.<br>
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Ken<br>
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