[Vision2020] About Evidence

[Donovan Arnold]

Moral principles don't require the existence of a God if your definition of moral principles is limited to actions which are "for the betterment and ennoblement of life" . I already stated this much in an earlier posting. 
 
But if your definition of living a moral life is one of "doing right and not wrong" than it cannot be a moral life as there is no right and wrong without a God to judge them, just actions with consequences. 
 
Remember, many believed that the extermination of Jews, Indians, persons with genetic variations (defects in their words) and enslavement for some races in nonindustrialized nations was a "betterment and ennoblement for the human race." So I think what is moral extends beyond the intent and consequences of the actor's thoughts and actions. 
 
Donovan J. Arnold

From: Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com>
To: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> 
Cc: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>; viz <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] About Evidence

> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> [Einstein] certainly did understand God's creations better than anyone.

Since you admire Einstein so much, you might be interested to know
that he didn't believe that morals required the existence of God:

"I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance
of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does
not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on
the basis of reward and punishment."
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