<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Moral <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-0><SPAN>principles</SPAN></SPAN> don't require the <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-1><SPAN>existence</SPAN></SPAN> of a God if your definition of moral principles is limited to actions which<VAR id=yui-ie-cursor></VAR> are "for the betterment and ennoblement of life" . I already stated this much in an earlier posting. </SPAN></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">But if your definition of living a moral life is one of "doing right and not wrong" than it cannot be a moral life as there is no right and wrong without a God to judge them, just actions with consequences. </SPAN></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Remember, many <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-0><SPAN>believed</SPAN></SPAN> that the extermination of Jews, Indians, persons with genetic variations (defects in their words) and enslavement for some races in <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-0><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">nonindustrial</SPAN></SPAN>ized nations was a "betterment and <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-1><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">ennoblement</SPAN></SPAN> for the human race." So I think what is moral extends beyond the intent and <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-2><SPAN>consequences</SPAN></SPAN> of the actor's thoughts and actions. </SPAN></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Donovan J. Arnold</SPAN></div>
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<DIV style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px" class=hr contentEditable=false readonly="true"></DIV><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Chasuk <chasuk@gmail.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com> <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe@gmail.com>; viz <vision2020@moscow.com> <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:05 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Vision2020] About Evidence<BR></FONT></DIV><BR>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Donovan Arnold <<A href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"
ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR>> [Einstein] certainly did understand God's creations better than anyone.<BR><BR>Since you admire Einstein so much, you might be interested to know<BR>that he didn't believe that morals required the existence of God:<BR><BR>"I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance<BR>of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does<BR>not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on<BR>the basis of reward and punishment."<BR><BR><BR></DIV></DIV></div></body></html>