[Vision2020] Researchers say aerosols from small volcanic eruptions could cool climate

Wed Jul 11 15:15:53 PDT 2012

Scott,

I think the law just has to play into how people behave and think. Start small. Pass a federal law that reduces federal aid by 1-5%, to counties that increase pollution and divert those funds to counties that decrease their air pollution. Since people want those extra funds for their schools, roads, parks, city budgets, property tax cuts, they will pressure their local politicians to identify ways to reduce pollution at little cost so can get free federal dollars. Few believe their county is responsible for the air pollution. It is always the other county that is doing all the polluting. Not Moscow, but Lewiston, not CDA, but Spokane. So the way people think, it is only a win-win no lose situation for their community. 

If the law would only tax counties that increased pollution, not ones that maintain current levels, and rewards counties that clean up, the majority would not oppose it. And after all, why should responsible hard working tax payers give their money to for-profit corporations for polluting their air? That doesn't seem fair, does it? 

Donovan J. Arnold

From: Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com>
To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com; art.deco.studios at gmail.com; viz <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 3:18 PM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Researchers say aerosols from small volcanic eruptions could cool climate

I agree - that is the reality with this (and most other things).  I also agree that turning it into an economic problem for those causing it was resolve it.  That's the tough hurdle to overcome and that's why people are fighting it so much because costing them money causes them immediate pain whereas global warming - at most - might cause them discomfort when and only when they're outside of their own climate controlled environment.

You can call them greedy and selfish and what not, but it is human nature to care more about your and your families needs rather than sacrificing your money for the supposed good of *everyone* else.  And calling them greedy and selfish isn't going change anything one iota.

-Scott

Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:22:40 -0700
From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Researchers say aerosols from small volcanic eruptions could cool climate
To: scooterd408 at hotmail.com; art.deco.studios at gmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com

If you want to solve the global warming problem turn it into an economic problem for those causing it and it will resolve itself. 

When slaves were dying in huge numbers on the ships brought over from Africa, they reduced the number of deaths by turning it into an economic problem. Instead of paying the shippers for every slave that walked on to the ship in Africa, they paid them for only the slaves that were able to walk off the ship in America. Suddenly, the death rate of slaves brought over dropped in half. No other regulations regarding treatment of slaves was nearly as successful in reducing deaths of slaves in transport. 

Reduce tax breaks or withhold federal aid to areas where the air quality drops. Because it is an economic problem, solutions would be found by every community to reduce air pollution without any other regulations or laws to meet. Place a pollution tariff on countries that don't meet air quality standards, and people in China would soon be able to breath.

The reality is, there is no incentive, and nobody considers it their problem. And until it is personally their problem they won't do anything about it. 

Donovan J. Arnold

From: Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com>
To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com; art.deco.studios at gmail.com; viz <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Researchers say aerosols from small volcanic eruptions could cool climate

Correct - and ridding the Earth of the human parasites that are infesting it might be in the best interest of the planet as it seemed to be doing just fine before human beings arrived on the scene.  So it all depends on what your end goal is and I'm assuming (but correct me if I'm wrong) that you want a healthy balance for the planet and most of the life forms presently inhabiting it. There may not be a perfect solution to achieve this so it my be wise to approach this as a 'best effort' along with all the necessary trade offs required to achieve this end goal.

-Scott

Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 10:42:53 -0700
From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Researchers say aerosols from small volcanic eruptions could cool climate
To: scooterd408 at hotmail.com; art.deco.studios at gmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com

Well if we are just looking for something that will put us out of our misery quickly, death would accomplish this task most efficiently. 

From: Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com>
To: art.deco.studios at gmail.com; viz <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Researchers say aerosols from small volcanic eruptions could cool climate

Yes - if cooling the climate is healthier for the planet versus acid rain.  Pick your poison depending on whether you want something that puts you out of your misery as soon as possible or not.

Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 10:02:53 -0700
From: art.deco.studios at gmail.com
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Researchers say aerosols from small volcanic eruptions could cool climate

Let's see.

In order to try to produce a cooler climate, we're going to produce more acid rain?

w.

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com> wrote:

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