[Vision2020] Institute for Public Accuracy: "Media Miss theForest for the Burning Trees"

[Gary Crabtree]

Mr. R doesn't need my defense and my post was not intended as such. What I was trying to get across was that while I disagree with much of what he has to say on a broad spectrum of topics, I still think he has something worthwhile to say and is deserving of a modicum of respect. 

What I thought was funny was how a conservative (me for instance) can disagree with 90% of what a person posts and still think they are a decent human being.
Disagree with 10% of a progressive liberals world view and expect to be insulted and dismissed as an ignorant, lying, buffoon suitable only for display in a zoo.

g


From: Joe Campbell 
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 10:32 PM
To: Paul Rumelhart 
Cc: Gary Crabtree ; Moscow Cares ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Institute for Public Accuracy: "Media Miss theForest for the Burning Trees"


I just think it's funny that your defenders don't even know what you're saying. Pretty clear case of prejudicial belief, in spite of evidence. Another indication that your posts are inappropriate for this context. 


If you had something to say, you'd be able to publish it in a reputable journal -- the proper context for that kind of discussion. But you can't, so you don't. 


But folks who have no idea what you're saying defend you not because they've understood your reasoning but because they like your conclusion. You are a mouthpiece for the radical right. It would be funny were the issue not so serious. 


Joe


On Jul 9, 2012, at 10:08 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:



  It's got to be more than you've learned, because you refuse to look at them.  They are deemed heretical, and could cause serious mental anguish to you and your loved ones if you did try to understand them, so you do The Right Thing and completely ignore them.  

  Bravo.

  Paul

  On 07/09/2012 08:28 PM, Joe Campbell wrote:

    Gary,

    Tell me one thing about the global warming debate that you've learned from Paul's posts, since you're such a fan. Just one. Try to be clear and give just one example of a claim or argument made by a climate scientist that Paul showed was incorrect or fallacious. I don't claim to understand any of his posts to be perfectly honest. But since you're such a big fan and defender of his clearly you must have just one example that you could explain to the rest of us of how Paul has helped to further the debate on global warming. Just one.


    Best, Joe

    On Jul 9, 2012, at 7:41 PM, "Gary Crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:


      Somebody please correct me if I'm misremembering the AGW dialog that has been running at a steady pace for the last few months. (If not years)

      Mr. Rumelhart has conceded that the earth does in fact appear to be growing warmer.

      He has allowed as how human activity likely does have some impact on said warming.

      He has stated that he thinks it might well be a good idea to reduce carbon emissions in a sensible manner.

      But, he's not quite ready to commit body and soul to the Church of The Sky Is Falling as he seems to have detected a few inconsistencies and has a few questions.

      In other words the rat bastard is thinking for himself and Lord knows we can't have any of that! Let's continue to belittle him as a dolt and a liar because
      what else could he be if he refuses to get on board with the prevailing group think of the moment?

      "Progressive liberals" are funny.

      g


      From: Moscow Cares 
      Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 1:52 PM
      To: Paul Rumelhart 
      Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com 
      Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Institute for Public Accuracy: "Media Miss theForest for the Burning Trees"


      Paul Rumelhart stated:


      "Why do I even care what you [Donovan Arnold] think?  That's really the question.  The answer is:  I don't."


      Yet, Mr. Rumelhart . . .


      You spend three paragraphs stating that you don't care.  If I were a psychiatrist, I'd suspect that you are struggling with issues . . . deep, deep issues.


      On the bright side, though, I am impressed that you managed to put three sentences together without using profanity.


      Now, about those issues . . . 


      Seeya round town, Moscow.


      Tom Hansen
      Moscow, Idaho


      "If not us, who?
      If not now, when?"


      - Unknown




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