[Vision2020] Jus' Another Day on Campus . . .
Donovan Arnold
donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Sat Jan 14 11:37:02 PST 2012
Some forefathers thought we all ought to own guns, yes. They also thought we all ought to own slaves, subjugate women to men's demands, and slaughter the native people.
We need to think for ourselves, and decide for ourselves and live for ourselves. Sure there are things, people, and ideas we should learn and take from the past, but they are just that, the past, people, and ideas. They are not absolute truths, Gods, or edicts.
The Constitution is a living document, it was meant to be a document of the now and future not the past, and not to allow it to change and adapt to the time in which it is now, is to squelch the life out of it and render it worthless.
Donovan Arnold
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From: Wayne Price <bear at moscow.com>
To: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
Cc: Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Jus' Another Day on Campus . . .
Oh Paul, There you go with all that Constitutional stuff again! Don't you know that there are local luminaries that KNOW BETTER than you and the founding fathers do and THEY
will decide who can have firearms! Besides, don't you realize that the POLICE will decide what is best if they don't? Just as the green house owner that the POLICE gunned down on his own
property up in Spokane, or Otto Zehm!
Wayne
On Jan 14, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Paul Rumelhart wrote:
That would be a great argument if our forefathers hadn't decided to put the right to bear arms in as the second amendment, which leads me to believe that they thought it was important. Important enough, perhaps, that the benefit is not outweighed by the added danger of guns being used at drunken brawls at fraternities at 8am in the morning.
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>I also tend to believe that simple access to weapons does not ensure their use, even by drunken frat boys. Besides, if someone had said "I have to warn you that I'm armed, so why don't we all just calm down and go our separate ways?" might have led to a better outcome overall.
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> From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
>To: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
>Cc: Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:19 AM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Jus' Another Day on Campus . . .
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>Mr. Rumelhart sarcastically suggests:
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>"If we hadn't had the foresight to restrict their Constitutionally-mandated right to bear arms then I'm sure this little fist fight would have turned into a reenactment of the Hatfields vs. the McCoys."
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>The likelihood of serious injury (or worse) is drastically increased by the introduction of firearms into such a mature, responsible activity as a multiple-fraternity brawl at 8:00 in the morning. Dontcha think, Mr. Rumelhart? Or dontcha think?
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>Seeya later, Moscow.
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>Tom Hansen
>Spokane, Washington
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>"If not us, who?
>If not now, when?"
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>On Jan 14, 2012, at 10:01 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>If we hadn't had the foresight to restrict their Constitutionally-mandated right to bear arms then I'm sure this little fist fight would have turned into a reenactment of the Hatfields vs. the McCoys.
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