[Vision2020] Just So we Don't Forget The Ultimate Hypocrisy

[Joe Campbell]

I totally disagree. Liberal as in CIVIL LIBERTIES. The "excessive
government spending" affiliation is a made up political story. There simply
IS no more excessive liberal spending than war, which is not generally
affiliated with liberals. Don't let the bad arguments of your enemies
control the labels of your position. You'll note a similarity here with my
views on free will, as I expressed them in the lengthy post which likely no
one read. Perhaps a good thing!

But I think most of the liberals/progressives on this list agree with you
and like the name "progressive" better, which is why I often use that
label. I'm a liberal, though!

On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
> wrote:

> I wish we would change the name of Liberal to Progressive, it is more
> accurate. Liberal means you are also liberal on excessive government
> spending and business regulation, which is not the case anymore for most
> self-professed Liberals. I think Progressive means you are for improving
> the way we treat people and managing our economic and natural resources.
>
>  A person wanting to "conserve" natural resources, and reduce taxes on
> the average American and small business, is not being liberal, they are
> being conservative with resources, but they are also being progressive.
>
> Theodore Roosevelt was an excellent example of a Progressive. He took
> action to protect the rights of the poor, children, minorities, and
> conserve the nation's resources while overall increasing the wealthy of the
> nation and its military capabilities to protect the nation. He proved
> treating people fairly and caring for the planet's resources breeds greater
> wealth for the nation, not less.
>
> Donovan Arnold
>
>   *From:* keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
> *To:* Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>; art.deco.studios at gmail.com
> *Cc:* vision2020 at moscow.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 4, 2012 3:04 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Just So we Don't Forget The Ultimate Hypocrisy
>
>  Let's never forget, and let's never think that as good liberals it's a
> mark of virtue to "tolerate" those of our neighbors who would hurt, and
> have hurt, the people in their own and our community.
>
> And that's why I'm a longtime supporter of the Southern Poverty Law Center
> who counts Morris Dees and Mark Potok among her list of heroes.
>
> As always, thanks, Tom.
>
> Keely
> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
>
>
> From: thansen at moscow.com
> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 11:45:19 -0800
> To: art.deco.studios at gmail.com
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just So we Don't Forget The Ultimate Hypocrisy
>
> Here's a little sumpin' from the NOTP archives that you can download to
> your personal library . . .
>
> Mark Potok's (Southern Poverty Law Center) article "Taliban on the Palouse"
> http://www.notonthepalouse.com/Tal_Pal.htm
>
> Enjoy.
>
> Seeya later, Moscow.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Spokane, Washington
>
> "If not us, who?
> If not now, when?"
>
> - Unknown
>
> On Jan 4, 2012, at 11:28 AM, Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Less not forget so that we try to keep children as far away as possible
> from the Christ Church Cult.
>
> How dare you question my judgment!<http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2006/fall/neo-confederates>
>
> --
> Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
> <art.deco.studios at gmail.com>art.deco.studios at gmail.com
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