[Vision2020] Budget cuts could slash $1B from vets health care

[Joe Campbell]

How can you have a belief without having a philosophy? So you're really
asking, what is the logic in keeping beliefs?

On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
> wrote:

> Joe,
>
> What's the logic in keeping Philosophy?
>
> Donovan Arnold
>
>   *From:* Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> *To:* Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com>
> *Cc:* vision2020 at moscow.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 3, 2012 7:25 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Budget cuts could slash $1B from vets health
> care
>
> Not just the military would appreciate you Sue!
>
> All of us in eduction -- especially higher ed -- are asked to do the same.
> Imagine the luck I'll have in raising money for Philosophy! Nonetheless,
> those are the cards with which we are dealt. I've always seen my challenge
> as trying to explain why Philosophy is relevant -- not that I've been
> successful at it yet.
>
> Things have not changed too much. What is significant is the thought that
> we might lose philosophy if the public doesn't see it as relevant. That
> we've worked ourselves to that very point is worrisome. What next? The
> arts? Still, no more worrisome than other recent threats to education.
>
> Best, Joe
>
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com> wrote:
>
>   My absolutely least favorite thing about being a teacher was raising
> all that money to buy transportation for kids to go to activities such as
> Debate and Knowledge Bowl, Future Problem Solving, etc.  I got to be an
> expert, and Moscow parents and school district patrons were very generous.
> Perhaps the military could use my skills.
>
> Sue H.
>
>  *From:* keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 03, 2012 2:01 PM
> *To:* dickow at turbonet.com ; vision2020 at moscow.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Budget cuts could slash $1B from vets health
> care
>
>  I spent most of the 1970s sporting a pin that said "Wouldn't it be a
> great day if schools had the money they needed and the Air Force had to
> hold a bake sale to buy a new bomber?"  A woman can dream, can't she?
>
> No, Paul -- The only answer isn't to cut spending.  Cutting waste, bloat,
> and fraud -- yes.  But vital human services are just that, vital, and are
> part of not just a social safety net, but a contract between taxpayers and
> the government to whom they pay those taxes.  To a large extent,
> infrastructure maintenance and additions are, too.  Cutting spending in
> areas and on projects left wallowing because of the eight years of horror
> that was the Bush administration -- eight years that took us from surplus
> to debt by waging two wars while slashing tax revenues -- is penny wise and
> pound foolish.  Ronald Reagan, who raised taxes several times during his
> administration, also took the richest Americans from a 70 percent income
> tax to a level half that.  No one wants to go to 70 percent again, but
> today's pledge-signing GOP wants to give away the farm.  No reasonable
> person believes that the debt can be addressed without asking those who
> most  benefit both from the liberties preserved by those wars as well as
> from the tax policies currently in hand to pay a reasonable percentage of
> their income.  It seems beyond belief that the GOP also believes that
> overseas profits made by U.S. corporations should be off-limits as well.
> I'd love to slash welfare programs and actually RAISE revenue -- that is,
> do away with policies that coddle the superwealthy and spend wisely the
> revenue that that attracts.  But don't penalize veterans, students, the
> elderly, the sick, the unemployed and the already-struggling.  And don't
> "penalize" the rich -- just respect the needs of the citizenry by asking
> that they do what the rest of us have to.
>
> Let's assume that good Americans ought to face taxation that's fair,
> proportional, reasonable and brings in revenue that's spent wisely,
> building our nation and not tearing down others.  That would seem to be
> neither a Democratic nor a Republican position -- just a solid, fair,
> strong and pro-American one.
>
> Keely
> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
>
>
>   From: dickow at turbonet.com
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 12:27:30 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Budget cuts could slash $1B from vets health care
>
>  Another solution is the take in more revenue to offset expenses. Since
> increased taxation seems to be a dirty word, how about car washes and bake
> sales? We have do it at the community level, in schools, etc, why not the
> Fed? Shouldn’t the government have a PayPal ‘Donate Now’ button on their
> website?
>
> Bob Dickow, troublemaker
>
>  *From:* vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:
> vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Rumelhart
>
>  <snip>
>  The simple fact is that we are spending more than we are taking in.  The
> simplest solution is to stop spending so much.
>
>  Paul
>
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