[Vision2020] Huh?

Saundra Lund v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm
Mon Dec 31 22:16:34 PST 2012


I dunno, Gary - if you think my response was "extra unpleasant" for pointing
out the sheer lunacy of the proposal, I think you need to read some of your
own responses . . . and grow the thicker skin as you seem to expect from
others.

 

And, WTG!  Completely ignore the valid points I raise.  I guess that's the
only response you could make given the unmitigated and uncountable instances
in which the mere presence of guns hasn't stopped shooters, spree &
otherwise.

 

Did you know, for instance, that there was someone right there carrying a
gun in the Tucson massacre, yet unarmed people had the shooter controlled
before the heat-packing dude could do a thing?

 

Yet another inconvenient fact, eh?

 

 

Saundra

 

From: Gary Crabtree [mailto:jampot at roadrunner.com] 
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 6:38 AM
To: Saundra Lund; 'Gary Crabtree'; 'viz'
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Huh?

 

I thought the point here was to discuss options. Do you imagine that being
extra unpleasant lends an extra level of credence to your point of view? 

 

g

 

From: Saundra Lund <mailto:v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm>  

Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 8:18 PM

To: 'Gary Crabtree' <mailto:moscowlocksmith at gmail.com>  ; 'viz'
<mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>  

Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Huh?

 

It worked soo well at Columbine, didn't it?

 

Confrontation by the armed officer  on campus & the exchange of fire drove
one of the shooters back into the school to continue the slaughter.  There's
a stellar success!

 

Oops - but don't confuse you with reality & facts, right?

 

 

Saundra

 

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Gary Crabtree
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 1:40 PM
To: Joe Campbell
Cc: viz
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Huh?

 

Training to become a cop in Idaho is 10 weeks making time not much of an
issue. There are quite a few things covered in POST that a school guard
would not need training in (pursuit driving, crime scene investigation, etc.
) further reducing the time needed to get qualified people in place.
Utilizing vets who were MP's or members of security detachments along with
retired police officers would be prime candidates for positions such as
this.

 

All entry doors in a facility could be easily modified to emergency exit
only except for one. This would make it so all visitors would be funneled
through one door and past one armed guard.

 

I really don't see what make this idea so unworkable other then the fact
that it doesn't jibe very well with the anti-gun agenda.

 

g

 

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
wrote:

Scott,

There was an Assistant Director of the FBI on CNN today explaining why this
cannot be implemented. Think of the training required before you release
folks with guns onto school campuses. Then think of the number of schools,
the number of doors to the school that would need to be guarded, the costs
of training and hiring an education militia, and the number of qualified
people available for those positions. This is a bad idea that does not stand
a chance of getting passed. Forget about it and move on to some actual
solution.

Best, Joe

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com>
wrote:

Armed security is something that could be implemented, regulated, and
enforced much more easily than gun control, gun bans, etc.  Armed security
guards could be subjected to more rigorous background and mental heath
checks plus mandatory training and licensing without having that pesky 2nd
Amendment coming into the mix.  Somewhat similar to how we supposedly have
air marshalls on some flights.  This might be one of the very few things
that the Republicans would actually be OK to put on the fragile shoulders of
tax paying individuals and businesses.

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From: thansen at moscow.com
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:36:59 -0800
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] Huh?

 

"Before Congress reconvenes, before we engage in any lengthy debate over
legislation, regulation or anything else, as soon as our kids return to
school after the holiday break, we need to have every single school in
America immediately deploy a protection program proven to work - and by that
I mean armed security."

 

- Wayne LaPierre, Executive Vice President of the National Rifle Association
(December 21, 2012)

 

http://tinyurl.com/cphq5lp

 

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Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .

 

"Moscow Cares"

http://www.MoscowCares.com

  

Tom Hansen

Moscow, Idaho

 


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