[Vision2020] Knee-Jerk Reactions

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Thu Dec 20 03:44:32 PST 2012


That letter is wacko. Disturbing.

On Dec 20, 2012, at 12:59 AM, "Saundra Lund" <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm> wrote:

> With respect to the SHES tragedy, Paul's & Wayne's comments about "knee-jerk
> reactions" from those of us who are demanding that it's long PAST time to
> seriously address gun violence in this nation & Roger's comments about
> concealed weapons permits being "better" than open carry were bothersome to
> me.
> 
> It should come as no surprise to anyone here that if I were willing to
> accept any political label (which I'm not), it would most likely be along
> the lines of "progressive," but I don't -- and never have -- been a party
> voter, and I've never hesitated to take dem elected officials to task the
> same way I do repubs as needed.
> 
> Also not surprisingly, I get emails about a lot of causes I support that
> tend to be progressive.  You know, the ACLU, Amnesty International, People
> for the American Way, consumer protection & safety groups, Planned
> Parenthood, Mayors Against Illegal Guns, UltraViolet, etc. 
> 
> And, I have to say that in the wake of the SHES tragedy, I've not received a
> SINGLE "knee-jerk" email from ANY "progressive" group or even from groups
> some would probably consider definitely left-of-center groups.  Not a single
> one.
> 
> I did, however, receive an email that could only in the most charitable
> manner be described as a knee-jerk reaction of the worst kind, and I'm
> pretty certain some of you here also received it, only you didn't have the
> guts to post it and use it as an example of a real knee-jerk reaction.
> 
> Do be sure and note the time it was sent:  almost exactly 24 hours following
> the tragedy.
> 
> I've removed the sender's email address, although an Internet search
> conducted on parts of the email text immediately following receipt gave a
> pretty good (although not definitive) indication of the original source
> group.  It's also . . . interesting how few hits there are for it now.  If I
> were a conspiracy theorist, I'd say that the top people in certain circles
> demanded that their followers conduct a purge of the thousands of time they
> posted & re-posted on their blogs and in their chat groups & listserves in
> those 24 hours.
> 
> Besides, anyone with connected brain cells can get an idea of the type of
> people behind this insanity, the kind of insanity that's rampant in "The
> Citadel Project" wing-nuts, the TPers, the militia groups, the reactionary
> right, the religious right, the NRA brain-dead, etc.
> 
> Finally, a word to the wise:  you'd better think twice before you EVER again
> try to label as "knee-jerk" the REASONABLE concerns expressed by REASONABLE
> people sick of the NEVER-ENDING GUN VIOLENCE made possible in no small part
> to the morons who parrot the NRA propaganda, "I'll give you my gun when you
> pry (or take) it from my cold, dead hands" and the "all government spending
> is bad (except when it goes into my personal pockets)" hypocrites.  If you
> aren't part of the solution, then you're a part of the problem, no matter
> how hard you try to convince those demanding action to bury their heads in
> the sand, just like you.
> 
> And now, get your puke bag before reading the email below.
> 
> Saundra
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fremanfighter 
> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2012 9:40 AM
> To: XXX at ssl1.fastmail.fm
> Subject: Newtown, Connecticut is the second Dunblane Primary-School
> Massacre.
> 
> 
> The primary-school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, approximately 45 miles
> from the Colt Arms Factory, is just another one in the long line of
> government psyops designed to persuade the public to allow the government to
> take away their guns, and their means to defend themselves against the
> government and the banksters that the politicians really serve.
> 
> The small children murders are designed to create hysterical emotions in
> women to get them to demand that guns are banned. If that doesn't work they
> will continue with their evil agenda with worse and worse atrocities on
> younger children, until they get their way and disarm the people, so that
> they cannot fight back against government tyranny.
> 
> Newtown is the U.S.A.'s Dunblane, which was orchestrated in Scotland in 1996
> by the British establishment, to whip up hysteria in order to ban all
> handguns from the U.K. It was a follow-up to the Hungerford Massacre in
> England in 1987, which was carried out by mind-controlled Michael Ryan, who
> then shot himself so he could not be questioned, and it was used to ban
> semi-automatic rifles and shotguns.
> 
> It's always the same people behind it - the gun-grabbers who want the people
> to be defenceless against the gun-grabbers' employers - the banksters who
> own all of the politicians. They get their politicians to pass legislation
> for them, in order to remove the people's freedoms and means of defending
> themselves, and enslave them in a draconian police-state, under a mountain
> of debt, and then exterminate the useless-eaters.
> 
> The Dunblane  massacre was supposedly carried out by Thomas Hamilton, who
> was a paedophile and procurer of children, for a high level paedophile ring
> involving senior members of the Tony Blair Labour-Party shadow-cabinet and
> others. The massacre served two purposes, it achieved their desired
> handgun-ban and killed the abused children, so they could not be witnesses
> against the elite-paedophiles. They then had the findings of the inquiry
> sealed for 100 years, which is proof of the above.
> 
> Like Newtown there were two shooters, Hamilton and a hit-man who shot
> Hamilton and made it look like Hamilton committed suicide after shooting 16
> children, so that he couldn't be questioned. Hamilton was found in the
> school gymnasium slumped against a wall and still gurgling, when an off-duty
> policeman PC Grant McCutcheon entered the gym and saw two semi-automatic
> pistols, one on either side of Hamilton's body.
> 
> The autopsy revealed that Hamilton was killed with a .38 revolver. These
> people always slip-up with their crimes. There was no .38 revolver for him
> to have shot himself with. Thus, there was a second shooter who killed
> Hamilton.
> 
> Similarly, the first reports from Newtown were of two shooters, just like
> mind-controlled James Holmes in the Denver Batman Cinema massacre, the story
> then quickly changes to just one.
> 
> Columbine was similar, in that a team of shooters in black outfits were seen
> there and the two accused were on mind-altering prescription-drugs.
> 
> Wake up and see the pattern and their modus operandi and don't fall for it.
> Never let them take your guns, except from your cold dead hands.
> 
> All of these are staged events to whip-up hysterical public support for
> banning the people from having guns. It works the same in every country -
> Hungerford in England, Dunblane in Scotland, Port Arthur in Australia and
> the list in America is endless, because of the Second Amendment and the
> people having a pro-gun culture. That makes it much more difficult to break
> the Americans' love of guns and the Second Amendment, which was put in place
> to protect the people from the government.
> 
> Gun bans work well for tyrants. They worked well for Hitler, Stalin and
> Chairman Mao, to name just three.
> 
> If you want to stop these massacres, wake-up and get rid of the banksters,
> their puppet-politicians and all gun-grabbers; arm teachers and ban gun-free
> zones.
> 
> From one who can see the pattern and hopes to enable you to see it too.
> 
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