[Vision2020] Religion, Moscow Billboards, and the First Amendment (Part 2)

Sat Dec 8 01:05:24 PST 2012

Paul, after listening to Judd Wilson's & his pal Greg Evan's complaints,
they think that their offense at having their Christianity "mocked" on a
billboard (you can bet neither would give a rip if the Islamic faith was a
specific target since both men supported a candidate who distributed an ugly
attack on that faith) is more important than the First Amendment.

No, the City didn't put up the billboard nor does it own the billboard or
the land.  The billboard & land are privately owned AFAIK, and the American
Humanist Association (AHA) paid for the content, just like they've done
periodically for several years now.

As Ted pointed out, Christianity isn't specifically targeted on the
billboard, but both Christian men took offense nonetheless, and I doubt
either would care if some other religion had been targeted as neither men
are known for their religious tolerance or acceptance.

Additionally, Judd Wilson stooped to a particularly low level dragging his
young child into the argument when his comments make it clear that it wasn't
his daughter who was offended but rather he himself.  Not that it would
matter, IMHO:  when a child's offense at being pressured (I hope they aren't
still required!) to participate or witness in vivisection doesn't matter,
mere words on a billboard certainly don't.

As to why they took it to the City Council, I imagine they were hoping they
could sucker the City into a costly effort to suppress the First Amendment.
Religious bigots like those men have a long history, especially in this
area, of trying to use the law to force their religious beliefs on the rest
of us.  I imagine they were hoping they could whip enough other religious
bigots (similar to 2004) into a frenzy to get the City to do something
stupid.

I don't know why Judd Wilson thinks the billboard is any different than the
unsolicited offensive crap pretending to be a legit newspaper he sent out
via the USPS.

Oh, wait, I guess I do know:  it's just another example of rank hypocrisy.
His personal offense matters; no one else's does.

Saundra

Moscow, ID

Compassion is the basis of all morality.

~ Arthur Schopenhuaer

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Joe Campbell
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 3:50 PM
To: Paul Rumelhart
Cc: Lois; Friends of the Clearwater; Moscow Vision 2020; Jeanne McHale;
Fritz Knorr; Friends of the Palouse Ranger District
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Religion, Moscow Billboards, and the First
Amendment (Part 2)

Another good question! My answer: Because by bringing it to the City of
Moscow he'll get more attention.

On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:

I don't understand why he's petitioning the city council.  Did the City of
Moscow put that billboard up?  Do they own the land or the billboard itself?
Does he think it's breaking the law in some way?

Sorry if it's all laid out in the video, I haven't had the time to watch it
yet.

Paul

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From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
To: Ted Moffett <starbliss at gmail.com> 
Cc: Lois <loisb at q.com>; Friends of the Clearwater
<foc at friendsoftheclearwater.org>; Moscow Vision 2020
<vision2020 at moscow.com>; Jeanne McHale <jeannemchale at hotmail.com>; Fritz
Knorr <fritzknorr at gmail.com>; Friends of the Palouse Ranger District
<fprd09 at gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2012 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Religion, Moscow Billboards, and the First
Amendment (Part 2)

Good point, Ted. Joe

On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Ted Moffett <starbliss at gmail.com> wrote:

I'm listening to this presentation at this moment, and it appears that
Wilson thinks the billboard was specifically aimed at Christianity, when
given what I saw on this billboard, it does not target Christianity any more
than any religion that has "God" as a belief.  The billboard indeed could
apply to Islam or Judaism, etc. or even perhaps belief in "Gaia" which some
think is a unscientific "God" substitute for pagans.
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Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett

On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Moscow Cares <moscowcares at moscow.com> wrote:

Mayor Chaney's, and the Moscow City Council's, Response to Judd Wilson's
November 19th Complaint

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoozIpwfo5U

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Stay tuned, Visionaires, because . . .

"Moscow Cares"

http://www.MoscowCares.com

Tom Hansen

Moscow, Idaho

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