[Vision2020] absolutely unbelieveable.

Tue Aug 28 22:03:02 PDT 2012

I don’t think so.  Political parties are not government entities and they aren’t funded by taxes.  The conventions are held in public buildings but I think they could argue “equal access” in this regard.  Tax funded protection services are used all the time for churches locally.    I think the more important question is, “why have prayers where there are groups who aren’t believers?”  That one isn’t going to be considered anytime soon. 

And maybe the RNC used the KOC just to ensure no women were allowed to take part.  Seems to follow their “war on women” theme for the election season. 

Sue H

From: Scott Dredge 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 7:50 PM
To: Joe Campbell 
Cc: Moscow Vision2020 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] absolutely unbelieveable.

This isn't at odds with the 1st Amendment, is it?  It's just a closing prayer at a DNC.  It just seems like an easy way to try and siphon some votes from the GOP. 

-Scott

On Aug 28, 2012, at 7:41 PM, "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:

  It is interesting, that in an age when the right to religious belief has run amok, that this part of the 1st Amendment (the Establishment Clause) often gets overlooked.

  On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Rosemary Huskey <donaldrose at cpcinternet.com> wrote:

    What happened to the separation of church and state?  

    Rose

    From: Ron Force [mailto:rforce2003 at yahoo.com] 
    Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 7:16 PM
    To: Rosemary Huskey; 'Moscow Vision2020'

    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] absolutely unbelieveable.

    Democrats, too:

    Sister Simone Campbell And Cardinal Timothy Dolan To Bless The Democratic Convention
    Religion News Service  |  By David Gibson Posted: 08/28/2012 6:31 pm Updated: 08/28/2012 6:31 pm

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    NEW YORK (RNS) In a move that could recast the reigning political narrative about the Catholic bishops, Cardinal Timothy Dolan has accepted an invitation to deliver the closing benediction at the Democratic National Convention, a week after he gives a similar blessing to the Republicans in Tampa, Fla.

    From the start, Dolan, who is also president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, made it clear that he would be willing to pray at the Democratic convention. There were doubts, however, that the Democrats would invite Dolan.

    The Obama campaign also revealed Tuesday (Aug. 28) that Sister Simone Campbell, the popular face of the recent "Nuns on the Bus" tour for social justice, will be addressing the Democrats in Charlotte, N.C., the night before Dolan's appearance.

    That is kind of a Catholic "two-fer" that threatens to upstage GOP nominee Mitt Romney's Catholic outreach and highlights the importance of this swing vote in a deadlocked race...

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/28/cardinal-timothy-dolan-sister-simone-campbell-democratic-convention_n_1837848.html 

    Ron Force
    Moscow Idaho USA

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    From: Rosemary Huskey <donaldrose at cpcinternet.com>
    To: 'Ron Force' <rforce2003 at yahoo.com>; 'Moscow Vision2020' <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
    Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 5:05 PM
    Subject: RE: [Vision2020] absolutely unbelieveable.

    Splendid, kissing the bishop’s ring. . . how can Evangelical Republicans stand this blatant pandering?   Remember how Repubs used to worry about John Kennedy bringing Rome to Washington?  

    Yowsa!!!!!!

    Rose Huskey

    From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Ron Force
    Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:52 PM
    To: Moscow Vision2020
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] absolutely unbelieveable.

    Here's why the KOC:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/the-catholic-vote-is-the-2012-bellwether/2012/05/03/gIQAXkJhyT_blog.html 

    Ron Force
    Moscow Idaho USA

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    From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
    To: Rosemary Huskey <donaldrose at cpcinternet.com> 
    Cc: viz <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
    Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 11:44 AM
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] absolutely unbelieveable.

    The RNC opening ceremony WITHOUT a military honor guard to present the colors?!?!

    WHAT AN EFFING PILE OF CRAP!!!

    Who else is the GOP going to disrespect?

    Seeya round town, Moscow.

    Tom Hansen

    Moscow, Idaho

    "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students.  The college students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."

    - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)

    On Aug 28, 2012, at 11:13 AM, "Rosemary Huskey" <donaldrose at cpcinternet.com> wrote:

      I am gobsmacked beyond belief…..  even in my most cynical, sarcastic mood never would I have imagined that the Republican Party would invite the Knights of Columbus – with their silly plumed hats and swords to present the colors at the opening of their convention this morning – followed by the worst tenor ever heard straining out the National Anthem.  It is a rich satire complete with audience shots of frumpy old white women decked out in a super heavy application of pancake makeup and deep blue eye shadow.  I’m frightened!!!!!.  

      Rose Huskey

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