[Vision2020] [more] Look See What Tri-State is Promoting . . .

[Rosemary Huskey]

Or, alternatively, Paul, give some thought to effective communication skills instead of endlessly arguing just for the pure hell of it.  We get it.  But sometimes, it is healthy to take a look around and ask yourself is it really worth it to always be the cheese that stands alone?  In a venue like 2020 I’m not concerned at all if I gather a consensus on what ever do-whacky notion on my mind.  In matters that are not of conscience or commitment what is the point in constantly presenting yourself as a jackass?  On the other hand, if it is a issue that defines you like being truthful, pro-choice, (whatever) naturally you can’t give him.  But, please, matters of opinion – especially when your opinion is not founded on fact, just aren’t worth fighting over.  Or, do you want to leave us with the impression that you are a bitter, disgruntled, argumentative, grump?

Rose Huskey

 

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Saundra Lund
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 9:29 AM
To: 'Paul Rumelhart'; 'Moscow Vision2020'
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [more] Look See What Tri-State is Promoting . . .

 

Bull crap – it’s absolutely accurate when you look at the legal cases.

 

Knock yourself out, Paul, finding me five cases where someone spouting that nonsense was subsequently charged & convicted and acted otherwise.

 

Saundra

 

From: Paul Rumelhart [mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 9:25 AM
To: Saundra Lund; 'Moscow Vision2020'
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [more] Look See What Tri-State is Promoting . . .

 

That's not a very good characterization of what that saying means.  I take it to mean that if you ever find yourself in a situation where you will literally die if you don't fight your way out of it, then it's better to be armed and survive than to be unarmed and die despite the impending court case which will follow.  Notice that it doesn't mean that you should step into a situation you could easily have avoided, because then the comparison is between being judged by 12 vs. nothing at all.  It's all about personal defense, not some kind of Rambo fetish or some bizarre need to tie up the court system.

 

Paul

 

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From: Saundra Lund <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm>
To: 'Moscow Vision2020' <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [more] Look See What Tri-State is Promoting . . .

 

That might not be complete nonsense if those who’d rather be “judged by 12 than carried by 6” didn’t turn into sniveling weanies when they are judged by 12.

 

Given that, what it really  means is, “I’ve got a gun, and even though those who know me know I don’t have good judgment, I’ve decided I’m going to be judge, jury, and executioner all by myself and then hope I get away with it.  And if I don’t, then I’m going to rant & rave how corrupt & unfair the justice system is, and I’m going to do everything in my power to not accept that judgment by 12.  And, I’m going to eat up taxpayer dollars by tying up the courts with my nonsense, and then I’m going to rant & rave even more about how inefficient & wasteful the justice system is because I don’t want to take my medicine for harming or killing another human being.  And, I’m going to play financial games so that hopefully I can get someone else to pay my legal expenses – there are plenty of sympathetic deep pockets who disrespect the judicial system as much as I do and love to waste taxpayer dollars for The Cause.”

 

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Price
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 6:50 PM
To: Paul Rumelhart
Cc: Moscow Vision2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [more] Look See What Tri-State is Promoting . . .

 

Better to be judged by 12 than to be carried by 6.


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