[Vision2020] [more] Look See What Tri-State is Promoting . . .
Paul Rumelhart
godshatter at yahoo.com
Sat Aug 11 09:57:26 PDT 2012
Yes, you'd have to be damn sure about your line of fire. Firing in the
middle of a frenzied crowd running panicked for the exits would surely
be asking for trouble. However, it's my understanding that for a while
during the shooting the shooter had complete control of the situation.
Anyone trying to leave was shot. Many people were playing dead in the
hopes they would be passed over. Firing on the shooter, even if he's
in body armor, might distract him enough that some people might have
made it to the exits. Body armor doesn't make you invincible, depending
on the armor and the caliber of the weapon used you might still have
made an impact, since he'd still be hit by the blunt force of the
bullet. In this situation, though, you would probably also have been
shot dead shortly after because he was so well prepared (vest, leggings,
throat protector, groin protector, and a helmet with a visor). Who
knows? Telling a loved one "when I start shooting, RUN for the exit and
don't stop" might have worked.
Most other shootings like this we've heard about haven't involved such a
heavily armored assailant. In fact, quite a few of them have taken
place in areas where gun use is often restricted, such as in schools or
on university campuses. Harris and Kliebold wore T-shirts and cargo
pants at Columbine. A student who had happened to have smuggled a gun
into the school might have been able to have had a real impact on that
event.
An interesting thing to think about, in my opinion. Apparently, that
opinion is not shared on this list.
Paul
On 08/11/2012 08:13 AM, Art Deco wrote:
> It's hard to think of something more foolish than someone or ones with
> a hand gun in a disorganized, panicky crowd trying to shoot a person
> with a automatic weapon shielded by body armor. How many more victims
> would be added to the final body count?
>
> Didn't something like this happen in the Moscow Massacre?
>
> w.
>
> On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Donovan Arnold
> <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com <mailto:donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Tom,
> While your wife if shopping Tri-State, you should be to. I mean
> come on, support your community why don't you. :)
> Donovan J. Arnold
>
> *From:* Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com <mailto:thansen at moscow.com>>
> *To:* Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
> <mailto:sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>>
> *Cc:* "<vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>>"
> <vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>>
> *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2012 6:47 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] [more] Look See What Tri-State is
> Promoting . . .
>
> You may very well be right, Sunil.
>
> It's just a habit I have acquired while in the service. Trust
> those around you, but keep your powder dry.
>
> I saw the poster at Tri-State. And, as I've said before, this is
> the first time I have seen such an advertisement in Moscow. I
> checked a few things out, such as its website, phone number, etc.
> etc. etc. (Hey, I needed something to pass the time while my wife
> was shopping at Tri-State).
>
> The more I dug, the more red flags I found. The more red flags I
> found, the more I dug. I have so many info sources, concerning
> the NFT Academy, bookmarked for reference I am thinking of
> discarding half of 'em.
>
> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The
> college students are not very active in local elections (thank
> goodness!)."
>
> - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
>
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Sunil Ramalingam
> <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com <mailto:sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
>> I've taken such a class and in the past had a concealed weapon
>> permit; who knows, I may again. I don't think this class is a big
>> deal.
>>
>> Sunil
>>
>> From: thansen at moscow.com <mailto:thansen at moscow.com>
>> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:41:58 -0700
>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [more] Look See What Tri-State is
>> Promoting . . .
>>
>> The primary reason this caught my eye . . .
>>
>> I have lived here in Moscow for just over twenty years. The is
>> the FIRST time I have seen concealed-weapon classes openly
>> advertised in town. Couple that up with the increasing paranoia,
>> as a result of the recent instances in Aurora (Colorado) and
>> Milwaukee (Wisconsin), and I feel I have a right to be curious.
>>
>> BTW, the NFT Academy website has only been in existence since
>> April 2012 and was not publicly released until June 12, 2012 (TWO
>> MONTHS AGO).
>>
>> http://fiddlerstudios.com/created-by-fs/announcing-the-national-firearms-training-academy-website/
>> I have more info to share, concerning the NFT Academy and its
>> website, but let's see where this thread leads.
>>
>> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>> "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The
>> college students are not very active in local elections (thank
>> goodness!)."
>>
>> - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
>>
>> On Aug 10, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Sunil Ramalingam
>> <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
>> <mailto:sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Something legal? The nerve! Next they'll be selling guns!
>>
>> Sunil
>>
>> From: thansen at moscow.com <mailto:thansen at moscow.com>
>> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:24:56 -0700
>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Subject: [Vision2020] Look See What Tri-State is Promoting . . .
>>
>>
>>
>> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>> "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."
>>
>>
>> - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
>>
>>
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