[Vision2020] Philosophical question

[Tom Hansen]

"Common knowledge suggests," proclaims Louis,
"Universally known." I say, "Phooey!"
We all know it's true
There are always a few
Who don't get the message. (Or do we?)

Seeya round town, Moscow.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"If not us, who?
If not now, when?"

- Unknown

On Aug 1, 2012, at 6:41 AM, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:

> This much is the same, Chas. The difference is we've kept the term
> "knowledge" and accommodated the shift whereas the push now is not to
> similarly redefine "free will" but to deny it exists, which leaves us
> in search of a new term to capture the kind of control that some of us
> have but some of us lack. Does that make sense? Joe
> 
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:04 AM, Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I don't see a dichotomy. We have never had infallible certainty, and
>> now we acknowledge this in our claims. Likewise, with free will. For
>> example, Sam Harris doesn't claim that some have free will, and some
>> don't. He is claiming that none of us do, and never have. After all,
>> if there exists a single person who lacks control of his or her
>> actions, then, logically, how could anyone have it? In both cases, our
>> understanding has changed, not (merely, or even necessarily) the
>> terms.
> 
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