[Vision2020] Say What?

keely emerinemix kjajmix1 at msn.com
Tue Apr 3 10:55:06 PDT 2012


Brilliant analysis, Sunil, and I agree.  While I haven't read Matt Taibbi's "Griftopia," others of his works, in book form and in Rolling Stone, have been sterling examples of his own brilliance.  There's a reason why Taibbi has been described as "the funniest angry writer in America, and the angriest funny writer in America."  

Keely
www.keely-prevailingwinds.com


From: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
To: v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm; vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 06:58:57 -0700
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?







Nick and Saundra,

Don't confuse Santorum with facts: He has a war to fight.

What I find interesting is the kind of class warfare that's acceptable to some Republicans; or maybe to all of us, just so this isn't a D-R fight.

Santorum, highly educated himself, is using the old R playbook and attacking 'cultural elites.' That's permissible, and one can campaign all day on that.

But when we really talk about the distribution of wealth, and regressive tax policies, that's class warfare, and we should not talk about it. Romney says we should talk about tax policy and wealth distribution in quiet rooms. 

http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2012/01/shhhh-romney-wants-economy-talk-in-quiet-rooms.html

When wealth is distributed to the top; when wars that enrich companies like Halliburton are waged, that's not class warfare.

But when you say, 'We're getting screwed,' it is. And Wall Street does just fine, whether it's Ds or Rs in charge; they fund them all and get a great return on their investment.

I recommend Matt Taibbi's 'Griftopia' for anyone who wants a colorful look at the results of deregulation, and his take on Obamacare.

Sunil
From: v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm
To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Say What?
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 22:57:49 -0700



Hi Sunil, I didn’t take time to check out each & every CSU campus, but I checked enough to know that there aren’t seven or eight campuses that don’t offer US History.  For anyone else interested, you can access each campus from the following link:http://www.calstate.edu/ Here’s more about the UC facts:http://thinkprogress.org/education/2012/04/02/456547/santorum-uc-american-history/?mobile=nc In fact, of the 10 UC system schools, just one (San Francisco) doesn’t offer American history courses. But that’s because it doesn’t offer any humanities courses at all — it’s a medical school.Meanwhile, Berkeley, Irvine, Davis, Los Angeles, Merced, Riverside, San Diego, Santa Barbara, and Santa Cruz all offer numerous American history courses. All require students to take U.S. history before they can graduate.University of California spokesperson Brooke Converse emailed to note that every single UC undergraduate program is required to study “American history and institutions,” though specific requirements vary at each campus. It seems to me the real question is:  what exactly is it that Santorum was reading to give him such gross misinformation?  Quite the hit job – no matter how inaccurate -- on California higher education, but is that surprising coming from Santorum? The baffling thing to me is that even when the GOP/TPers get snookered by special interest groups that thrive on providing misinformation, they don’t seem to learn the lesson & keep right on sucking up the muck.  Saundra From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Sunil Ramalingam
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 9:26 PM
To: vision 2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What? Nick,

Tim White got his doctorate at Berkeley, and didn't go to Davis.

I went to Davis and took courses on American history there. Maybe Santorum meant the Cal State system? Hmm, I went to Sac State too, and took American history courses there too. Maybe they took them off the curriculum.

SunilDate: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 21:18:18 -0700
From: ngier006 at gmail.com
To: thansen at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?

I'm sure that the entire UC system has responded to Santorum already, but I just checked the history dept. at UC Davis (that is where our illustrious former president Time White went) and they have tons of courses on American history. NickOn Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:"I was just reading something last night from the state of California. And that the California universities - I think it’s seven or eight of the California system of universities don’t even teach an American history course. It’s not even available to be taught."

- Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum (April 2, 2012)

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http://sfist.com/2012/04/02/rick_santorum_claims_california_universities_are_ruining_america.php

Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asTPft2-RWw&feature=player_embedded

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Moscow, Idaho

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