[Vision2020] Hypocrisy (was RE: September 11th Memorial Events)

[Rosemary Huskey]

Gary, you old rascal, I'm sorry to read that you are still toting the load
for Doug and the Toadies.  You are not getting any younger and the load is
not getting any lighter.  Actually, given the difficulty of ever achieving
the separation of church and state in Idaho, the outcome on the Appellate
level was a foregone conclusion.   You may not recall we won on the County
level.  Grinding Doug's nose in the dirt wasn't the reason Saundra and I
chose to shine the spotlight on Doug's use of tax exempt property to provide
a hidey-hole for his congregation members to operate their for-profit
driving school.  Nor, was it the reason that we objected to the presence of
a for-profit, private boys school in Jim Wilson's NuArt operation.  We
believed then, as we continue to believe now, that tax exempt property
should not be permitted to concurrently permit for-profit business to enjoy
a free ride at taxpayers' expense (not to mention the sneaky violation of
community zoning laws).  Doug and Jim Wilson are not above the law despite
the fact that they wrap themselves in scripture.  It does, however, make
them hypocrites, which is another story for another day.

 

Further, and just to clarify my position, I don't believe that any church
(or religious organization) should enjoy the privilege of tax exempt status.
I believe in complete separation of church and state.  

 

Hope you had a nice summer.  

 

Rose

 

 

 

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Gary Crabtree
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 7:17 PM
To: Gier, Nicholas; Saundra Lund; godshatter at yahoo.com; Art Deco
Cc: Vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Hypocrisy (was RE: September 11th Memorial Events)

 

Saundra's and Rose's revelations about Wilsons' tax evasions? Accusations
not revelations. The way I remember it, the gals hooted and shrieked at
length for zero end result. (the authorities were totally unimpressed with
their multitudinous shoeboxes of "evidence." Go figure) None of their
specious allegations were born out. Of course when it comes to the
vilification of our proud intolerista's favorite bogeymen, all innuendo may
freely be treated as truth and facts be damned. For the record, I've known
Jim since I was a junior high school kid (bumped into him within a week of
his moving to Moscow) and while we have had our share of disagreements, he's
still one of the nicest guys I know.

 

g

 

From: Gier, Nicholas <mailto:NGIER at uidaho.edu>  

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 3:26 PM

To: Saundra Lund <mailto:v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm>  ; godshatter at yahoo.com ;
Art Deco <mailto:deco at moscow.com>  

Cc: Vision2020 at moscow.com 

Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Hypocrisy (was RE: September 11th Memorial Events)

 

Hi Paul,

I've known Jim Wilson for at least 38 years and, despite our religious
differences, I respected the man, even after his son made friends with a
board member of the neo-Confederate League of the South, became an extreme
Calvinist, and proceeded to violate every virtue in the book.I know that
this troubled Jim very much and what stressed him most was the rift it
caused between Doug and his brother Evan, whom I still respect as
conservative evangelical Christian. 

But after Saundra's and Rose's revelations about Wilsons' tax evasions and
after I read Jim's book on basing evangelivism on a military model, that was
the last straw for me. Especially when I asked him directly if thought that
the upheld sword on his book cover was a mistake.  He brushed it off as just
"symbolic."

I don't pray but my humble request to the Life Force is that more of Doug's
congregation move over to Evan's nice little church on 6th Street.  I'm not
inviting them to my church, because I don't think they would make good
Unitarian Universalists--and that's perfectly OK with most UUs.

I offer my condolences for your loss, but I was moved to tears this morning
in church when a 9/11 song that began "Even though I did not know you. . . .
was played over the sound system.  I'll try to get the entire lyrics off the
web.

In memory those who were lost and in sympathy with their families and those
Muslims (or those taken for them)whose scripture and mosques have been
burned,

Nick

In part, Paul wrote:

"I know Jim Wilson personally.  He's an extremely nice and respectful
individual, and (despite not agreeing with him on matters of faith) is as
sane as anyone on this list.  He's the kind of guy that would give you the
shirt off his back if he thought you needed it more than he.  If he thinks a
certain way about something, it's because that's his honest interpretation
from reading his Bible."



Huh - you must know a different Jim Wilson than do I because I personally
don't give a rip how "nice" or "respectful" someone may be if honesty &
integrity are lacking, as is the case with Jim Wilson wanting a free tax
ride & expecting government - which means you & me -- to pay for his ride.
My friends will remember how completely shocked & disappointed I was that
Wilson had no difficulty being dishonest under oath.  Pathetic.



Personally, I don't think it's OK to be disingenuous - at best - just to
stick the rest of us with CCM's tax bill, and I don't think God thinks it's
OK, either.  Lying, cheating, stealing - or being intentionally obtuse --
are OK as long as long as you're ripping off those who don't share a
particular faith, eh?  Not in my faith, and not in my world, it isn't.



Hypocrisy is hypocrisy is hypocrisy, and we know that it pains you, Paul,
but it's even more reprehensible when it comes from so-called "religious
leaders" like Jim Wilson.





Saundra Lund

Moscow, ID



The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
nothing.

~ Edmund Burke



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