[Vision2020] who pays for Megaload cops?

[Wayne Price]

Jay!


Using a US highway for transportation? That's just crazy talk!

Wayne





On Sep 6, 2011, at 8:29 AM, Jay Borden wrote:

> There must be SOME process that can be followed, since Exxon isn’t  
> the only one that’s doing it..
>
> Remember this post from a bit ago?
>
>
> These megaloads are multiplying like bunny rabbits. . . . and it  
> looks like it's not just "big oil" anymore.  See what happens. . . .  
> you give 'em an inch and the next thing you know. . . .
>
> Well, we saw it coming, didn't we?
>
> BOISE – A transport company will ship two over-legal loads eastbound  
> on U.S. 12 for Weyerhaeuser next week, the Idaho Transportation  
> Department announced.
> Nickel Bros will haul equipment from the Port of Wilma in Clarkston,  
> Washington, to a Weyerhaeuser pulp mill in Grande Prairie, Alberta,  
> Canada. The equipment is for a high-efficiency evaporator plant that  
> is designed to reduce greenhouse gases and generate electricity from  
> steam.
> The first load will enter on Idaho 128 from the Port of Wilma at  
> about 5:30 a.m. on Monday, August 29, connect with U.S. 12 and  
> continue eastbound to Montana. The load is 17.7 feet high, 14 feet  
> wide and 118 feet long, and weighs 200,478 pounds.
> Traffic delays are not anticipated, and the shipment will travel  
> during daylight hours. It is scheduled to take one day to travel  
> from the Port of Wilma to the Idaho/Montana state line. The  
> transport will be accompanied by two pilot vehicles in the front of  
> the shipment and one behind it.
> The second shipment is scheduled to arrive in Idaho north of  
> Lewiston on Tuesday, August 30, shortly after 3 a.m. It also will  
> enter on Idaho 128 from Washington, connect with U.S. 12 and  
> continue to the Idaho-Montana state line.
> The second load is 19 feet high, 14.6 feet wide and 234 feet long,  
> and weighs 433,282 pounds. Because of its length, there may be  
> traffic delays while the shipment navigates corners on the highway.  
> Delays will be limited to 15 minutes or less. It also is scheduled  
> to take one day to travel to the Idaho/Montana state line.
>
>
>
> Ellen A. Roskovich
>
> P.S.  We all might need a midnight snack and The Pie Hole has some  
> pretty good pizza by the slice.   : )
>
>
>
> Jay
>
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Donovan Arnold
> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 10:34 PM
> To: Paul Rumelhart
> Cc: Moscow Vision 2020
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] who pays for Megaload cops?
>
> Paul,
>
> I don't think so as I read the Federal law. They exceed the max  
> requirements and don't meet Federal Law for a permit. These mega  
> loads could be broken into smaller parts. There are other ways they  
> could ship it that are cheaper and safer than shipping up norther  
> Idaho.
>
>  (23 CFR § 657.15(f)(3)(ii)).
>
> "The following are the Federally mandated maximum weights for the  
> National System of Interstate and Defense Highways and reasonable  
> access thereto:
> 1) 80,000 pounds gross vehicle weight
> 2) 20,000 pound single axle weight*
> 3) 34,000 pound tandem axle weight**
> 4) Bridge Formula***"
>
>
> Federal Law regarding state rights to issue special permits for load  
> variance of according 23 CFR Part 658.17 is;
> "Nondivisible Loads:
>
> Permits may be issued by the States without regard to the axle,  
> gross, or Federal bridge formula requirements for nondivisible  
> vehicles or loads.Nondivisible is defined as any load or vehicle  
> exceeding applicable length or weight limits which, if separated  
> into smaller loads or vehicles, would:
>
> Compromise the intended use of the vehicle, i.e., make it unable to  
> perform the function for which it was intended;
> Destroy the value of the load or vehicle, i.e., make it unusable for  
> its intended purpose; or
> Require more than 8 work hours to dismantle using appropriate  
> equipment. The applicant for a nondivisible load permit has the  
> burden of proof as to the number of work hours required to dismantle  
> the load."
>
> Which of these does Exxon claim to get a permit that is also true?
>
> Donovan Arnold
>
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