[Vision2020] Homecoming parade time?

Sunil Ramalingam sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
Sat Oct 8 08:55:37 PDT 2011


10 am

> From: foucachon at gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 08:38:24 -0700
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] Homecoming parade time?
> 
> Do any of you know the exact time of the homecoming parade? I couldn't find it posted anywhere, and figured most of you knew. My two little boys are going to love it! 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -Daniel
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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> On Oct 8, 2011, at 7:46, vision2020-request at moscow.com wrote:
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> >   1. Here we go again (Art Deco)
> >   2. Re: Sangria and Transparency (Jay Borden)
> >   3. Re: Sangria and Transparency (Jay Borden)
> >   4. Coeur d'Alene Public Hearing on Redistricting (Tom Hansen)
> >   5. Call the Forest Service (Tom Hansen)
> >   6. Caturday (October 8, 2011) (Tom Hansen)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 17:32:00 -0700
> > From: "Art Deco" <deco at moscow.com>
> > To: <Vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > Subject: [Vision2020] Here we go again
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> > Here we go again ala Lloyd Knerr of The Freeze Church:
> > 
> > http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/07/breaking-pastor-to-gop-dont-vote-for-romney-because-hes-mormon/?hpt=hp_t2
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 18:16:41 -0700
> > From: "Jay Borden" <jborden at datawedge.com>
> > To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>, <gussie443 at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sangria and Transparency
> > Message-ID: <005101cc8558$a3931666$020ba8c0 at DataWedge.local>
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> > Obviously I know nothing about their books, their numbers, or their circumstances.  But, yes, I'm quite sure the going rate is ~1.5%. 
> > 
> > I'm pretty sure the NRA (that's National RESTAURANT Association) negotiated 1.35% for all of their members not too long ago.
> > 
> > If Sangria's effective credit card rate is approaching 2.9% on card-present swiped transactions with a restaurant SIC designation, then they got taken by the smoothest salesman on the planet, or their business manager needs extreme tutoring.
> > 
> > Any combo of which is possible, I suppose.
> > 
> > There are all sorts of nickle/dime fees as well... machine rental (a few bucks a month),  statement fees (another fee bucks a month, if you choose to get a paper statement).... etc etc.
> > 
> > But those nickle and dime fees pale to the % of ticket charged for every transaction.
> > 
> > And, no, they can't give a cash discount.  Its against Visa/MC's policy.  But my intent wasn't to cry foul and start a riot, only to point out the double-standard.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Jay
> > 
> > Sent from my Android phone... so ignore the typpos... 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ellen Roskovich [gussie443 at hotmail.com]
> > Received: Friday, 07 Oct 2011, 1:15pm
> > To: jborden at datawedge.com [jborden at datawedge.com]; vision2020 at moscow.com [vision2020 at moscow.com]
> > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Sangria and Transparency
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I hope you're REALLY sure about that "going rate". . . also, aren't there "other" fees attached to doing business accepting credit cards?  Like the "lease" fee for use of the swipe device?   Seems like I remember a whole plethora of bank charges at the end of the month.  I felt like my pocket was being picked by my bank on a regular basis.
> > 
> > Don't know if they actually can charge a surcharge. . . . I wanted to, but was told I couldn't.  However, it might be o.k. to give a discount.  But that could backfire on you also.  After all, if you give a 2.9% discount you run the risk of being branded as a "cheapskate".  Sometimes you can't win.
> > 
> > Don't want you to paint a very simplistic view of doing business that might cast doubt without cause.
> > 
> > Ellen A. Roskovich
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > 
> > Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 22:12:47 -0700
> > From: jborden at datawedge.com
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: [Vision2020] Sangria and Transparency
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > In a recent ?round-table? discussion with a few of my peers on a variety of topics, the opinion of *more corporate transparency* emerged over and over again as what?s wrong with America.  (Warning:  wine was flowing).
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > So? my wife and I went out to a nice dinner last night at Sangria where we saw a note paper-clipped in their menu.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I forget the *exact* phrasing, but the note said something along the lines of:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ?As of September 10th, the menu prices listed will reflect a cash price, and a 2.9% surcharge will be added for any order that is paid for by credit card.  [Something something about fees].  Please help us fight the evil corporations that want to take money out of Moscow by paying in cash!?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Again? it?s not word-for-word, but that?s the gist of the message.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > So? interesting notes, since I happen to know a thing or twelve about the credit card industry.  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sangria has actually raised their prices, but managed to jump on the hate-wagons at large still blame larger ?corporate America? in the process.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 1)      The current ?going rate? (cost) to a merchant such as Sangria for a swiped Visa/MC credit card is ~1.5%.
> > 
> > a.       American Express charges 3.5% for their merchant fees, but Sangria doesn?t accept Amex (and also why many merchants don?t accept Amex). 
> > 
> > 2)      Since Sangria is only charged ~1.5%, but their surcharge is 2.9%, they are now making an additional 1.4% on every single credit card swipe taken at the restaurant.
> > 
> > 3)      In addition, every transaction that Sangria can push to cash via their little note is now saving (making) an additional 1.5% on every single transaction, since it?s a merchant cost they no longer have to pay. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Bottom line:  on every single transaction, Sangria is now making a little more money.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The part that bothers me isn?t that Sangria is making more money? (as I?ve said before, I?m a ?for profit? individual)? what bothers me is that they choose to make a larger enterprise the whipping boy for their own profit.  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > In my opinion? they should either drop the dig in their menu insert about helping them stick it to the larger banks? *or* they should make their surcharge only equal to their merchant fees.  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > But not both.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Jay
> > 
> > 
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 18:26:36 -0700
> > From: "Jay Borden" <jborden at datawedge.com>
> > To: <ophite at gmail.com>, <gussie443 at hotmail.com>
> > Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sangria and Transparency
> > Message-ID: <005501cc855a$05b35e36$020ba8c0 at DataWedge.local>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > 
> > No... I'm not 'pissed'.
> > 
> > I'm only bothered by one company complaining of being  'fleeced' by their vendor while they themselves are engaging in a similar practice with their customers.
> > 
> > If the public at large is crying for more transparency... well... there's a local dose.
> > 
> > Fees or no, I have every intention of continuing to eat there... I'm a sucker for their pan-fried noodles.
> > 
> > Jay
> > 
> > Sent from my Android phone... so ignore the typpos... 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ellen Roskovich [gussie443 at hotmail.com]
> > Received: Friday, 07 Oct 2011, 4:16pm
> > To: ophite at gmail.com [ophite at gmail.com]; jborden at datawedge.com [jborden at datawedge.com]
> > CC: vision2020 at moscow.com [vision2020 at moscow.com]
> > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Sangria and Transparency
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Very well put, Andreas. . . . wish vision2020 had a "like" button.
> > 
> > Ellen A. Roskovich 
> > 
> >> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 14:19:21 -0600
> >> From: ophite at gmail.com
> >> To: jborden at datawedge.com
> >> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sangria and Transparency
> >> 
> >> I see. So, you're pissed at the small businessman that makes you
> >> dinner, but not at the financial industry that merely takes their
> >> money and runs.
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> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 20:19:16 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> > To: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > Subject: [Vision2020] Coeur d'Alene Public Hearing on Redistricting
> > Message-ID: <259d088895dc9370e0504a3467c480be.squirrel at secure.fsr.com>
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> > 
> > Greetings Visionaires -
> > 
> > On October 6th the Idaho Citizen Commission for Reapportionment held a
> > public hearing in Coeur d?Alene.  Among those in attendance from Latah
> > County that provided comments to the commission were:
> > 
> > Susan Peterson, Latah County Clerk
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPPlXuc_XPM
> > 
> > Gresham Bouma
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01Tk79jAeL0
> > 
> > Rep. Shirley Ringo
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5BkJBew8c8
> > 
> > Paula Bauer
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaFmCX1YAOo
> > 
> > Seeya at the Homecoming Parade, V-peeps.
> > 
> > As for right now . . .
> > 
> > "I'm going, I'm going where the water tastes like wine
> > I'm going where the water tastes like wine
> > We can jump in the water, stay drunk all the time."
> > 
> > Tom Hansen
> > Moscow, Idaho
> > 
> > "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to change
> > and the Realist adjusts his sails."
> > 
> > - Author Unknown
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 05:55:00 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> > To: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > Cc: Kathy Judson <ponysnpups at gmail.com>, Friends of the Clearwater
> >    <foc at friendsoftheclearwater.org>, Fritz Knorr <fritzknorr at gmail.com>,
> >    Harvey Neese <waco34tx at hotmail.com>, Jeanne McHale
> >    <jeannemchale at hotmail.com>, Marilyn Beckett
> >    <marilynbeckett at gmail.com>, Joann Muneta <Jmuneta at uidaho.edu>, Friends
> >    of the Palouse Ranger District <fprd09 at gmail.com>, Helen Yost
> >    <helen.yost at vandals.uidaho.edu>
> > Subject: [Vision2020] Call the Forest Service
> > Message-ID: <a550097687f7c3a892cb30283760549c.squirrel at secure.fsr.com>
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> > 
> > Courtesy of the Letters section of today's (October 8, 2011)
> > Moscow-Pullman Daily News with thanks to Marilyn Beckett.
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Call the Forest Service
> > 
> > There are few things as confusing and annoying as the Lochsa Land
> > Exchange. One thing is clear - the exchange involves disposal of valuable
> > public land when federal assets (and lands) are more valuable given the
> > state of the economy, shifting markets and climate.
> > Communities in Idaho have depended on the U.S. Forest Service for seasonal
> > jobs, collaboration with our universities, and a dependable employment
> > base of educated professionals who support them. There was once pride in
> > "Caring for the Land and Serving the People." We looked to the Forest
> > Service as the highest caliber of public land management. Contrast that to
> > what we know about industrial timber throughout history.
> > 
> > There has been disintegration of the Forest Service over the last several
> > decades. The reasons are a complex weave of events and ideologies, but the
> > bottom line is that unless we want to privatize our national forests, we
> > must fight to ensure the Forest Service remains viable.
> > 
> > The land exchange represents a knockout blow to the Forest Service in
> > Idaho, and has implications for the West in general. As Congress is saying
> > "no" to sales of surplus federal property, the Forest Service is proposing
> > to trade large tracts of Idaho public land to a limited liability
> > corporation with no loyalties, unless it's to a Timber Investment
> > Management Organization.
> > 
> > We all know about TIMOs and Real Estate Investment Trusts - based
> > elsewhere and traded on the stock exchange for the highest return to
> > investors. Millions in assets are necessary to be a qualified investor.
> > This is not you, me or most of public land ownership.
> > 
> > It's up to us to stop the effort to destroy the mission of the Forest
> > Service. Call Clearwtater/Nez Perce National Forest Supervisor Rick
> > Brazell at (208) 983-1950. Tell him to take no action on the Lochsa Land
> > Exchange.
> > 
> > Marilyn Beckett
> > Moscow
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Seeya at the homecoming parade, Moscow.
> > 
> > Tom Hansen
> > Moscow, Idaho
> > 
> > "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to change
> > and the Realist adjusts his sails."
> > 
> > - Author Unknown
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 07:45:56 -0700
> > From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> > To: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > Subject: [Vision2020] Caturday (October 8, 2011)
> > Message-ID: <000501cc85c8$fd127360$f7375a20$@com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > 
> > Courtesy of the New Haven Independent (New Haven, Connecticut) at:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/she_was_determin
> > ed_to_rescue_that_cat/id_40914
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > She Was Determined to Rescue the Cat
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Stuck inside a subterranean pipe, the kitten howled. But it wouldn't come
> > out. Lt. Holly Wasilewski knew she wouldn't be able to sleep that night if
> > the feline remained there.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > So began an hour-plus-long drama in Kimberly Square.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > It began around 7:30 p.m. Wednesday. A woman approached two officers to
> > report hearing a kitten cry from somewhere below Lamberton Street by
> > Kimberly Avenue.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The officers knew to call Wasilewski, the Hill's top cop. She has three cats
> > herself, two of them rescues from the animal shelter. She's known for having
> > a soft touch for critters in general.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Wasilewski rushed over from the substation blocks away. By that point the
> > cat was howling from down in a storm drain.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > It was clear the cops would need a ladder to retrieve the cat. Wasilewski
> > called the fire department. While waiting for the crew from Howard Avenue to
> > send over Engine 11, a ladder truck, she picked up a can of cat food. She
> > then stopped by Gem Liquors to obtain an empty Corona box.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Engine 11 arrived within minutes. The cops and now the firefighters present
> > could see just a speck of gray down in the pipe; the cat had receded
> > somewhere.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The firefighters removed the grating and pumped some of the water out of the
> > drain. (There wasn't much to begin with.) Then firefighter Phil Gonzalez
> > climbed down a narrow pole ladder to the bottom of the drain, about five
> > feet. The cat had scooted into a pipe in the wall. Gonzalez scooped out a
> > piece of the cat food, threw it into the pipe. The cat kept crying. It
> > didn't move.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Gonzalez returned to the street. Wasilewski decided to give it a try
> > herself.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "I went down there to take a look. I have cats of my own; I know one of my
> > cats is afraid with certain males. I've had success rescuing other animals.
> > I was the one who was really pushing the issue; I wanted the cat out."
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > She ended up standing in the muck for a good hour.  She bent over, tried
> > coaxing the cat to come out. No luck. She tried praying. That didn't help
> > either.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Lt. Blakesless suggested a little pole might help. He went back to the
> > firehouse to retrieve a metal pole that'd been lying as scrap in the back
> > for months. The firefighters cut off a piece of the pole,  attached a string
> > to the end in a loop, handed it to Wasilewski.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Bending "as far as I could," Wasilewski maneuvered the pole "as far as I
> > could." it was awkward; she was also relying on a flashlight to see the cat.
> > The space was tight; but she got part of the loop on the kitten. Then the
> > cat, a good six feet away, wiggled out of the loop. It remained frozen in
> > place.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > After another attempt, the firefighters cut a somewhat larger piece of the
> > pole, some seven feet long.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > That was tougher to maneuver in the tight space in the drain, especially
> > since the pole obviously didn't bend. But it reached farther in, which was
> > crucial. Wasilewski this time got the loop fully around the kitten's neck.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > As Wasilewski pulled, the kitten escaped again. But it was closer now.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Wasilewski asked the firefighters to put some duct tape around the loop to
> > stiffen it. That did the trick. On the third try, the loop stayed around the
> > kitten's neck.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Now Wasilewski worried the cat would choke as she pulled it toward her. The
> > loop was getting tighter. And the cat was panicking.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Finally Wasilewski had the cat in her arms. It didn't fight her.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "I'm coming up!" Wasilewski called as she, slowly, straightened. The cat
> > relaxed. "It knew at that point it was being rescued."
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > She handed the grayish tiger kitten to one of the officers above, who placed
> > it in the Corona box. Then Wasilewski called the animal shelter, which
> > didn't have room. She took the kitten to the veterinary hospital on State
> > Street, which also couldn't take in the kitten. But the folks there did give
> > the kitten a bath, washing away its fleas.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Wasilewski took the kitten home-just for the night. She said she couldn't
> > permanently take on a fourth cat. As it was, she had the kitten sleep in her
> > bed, away from Shane, Bella, and Pumpkin. Especially Shane, who's "kind of a
> > bully."
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The kitten slept well. "My other cats weren't too happy. They were growling
> > and hissing this morning," Wasilewski reported.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > She brought the cat to the police station, where one colleague, Lt. Jeff
> > Hoffman, offered to adopt it. Then Hoffman started sneezing. He's not sure
> > if he'll adjust to the cat, or need to find it a new home. But for now, at
> > least, it's out of the drain-and cared for.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "I think I'll be all right," Hoffman reported Thursday afternoon. "It's
> > going to be my son's first pet. I think I'll tough it out."
> > 
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> > 
> > Seeya at the homecoming parade, Moscow.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Tom Hansen
> > 
> > Moscow, Idaho
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