[Vision2020] Homecoming parade time?

Sat Oct 8 08:49:42 PDT 2011

10:00 AM

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho


On Sat, October 8, 2011 8:38 am, Daniel Foucachon wrote:
> Do any of you know the exact time of the homecoming parade? I couldn't
> find it posted anywhere, and figured most of you knew. My two little boys
> are going to love it!
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Daniel
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 8, 2011, at 7:46, vision2020-request at moscow.com wrote:
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>>   3. Re: Sangria and Transparency (Jay Borden)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 17:32:00 -0700
>> From: "Art Deco" <deco at moscow.com>
>> To: <Vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Subject: [Vision2020] Here we go again
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>> Here we go again ala Lloyd Knerr of The Freeze Church:
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>> http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/07/breaking-pastor-to-gop-dont-vote-for-romney-because-hes-mormon/?hpt=hp_t2
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>> Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 18:16:41 -0700
>> From: "Jay Borden" <jborden at datawedge.com>
>> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>, <gussie443 at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sangria and Transparency
>> Message-ID: <005101cc8558$a3931666$020ba8c0 at DataWedge.local>
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>> Obviously I know nothing about their books, their numbers, or their
>> circumstances.  But, yes, I'm quite sure the going rate is ~1.5%.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure the NRA (that's National RESTAURANT Association)
>> negotiated 1.35% for all of their members not too long ago.
>>
>> If Sangria's effective credit card rate is approaching 2.9% on
>> card-present swiped transactions with a restaurant SIC designation, then
>> they got taken by the smoothest salesman on the planet, or their
>> business manager needs extreme tutoring.
>>
>> Any combo of which is possible, I suppose.
>>
>> There are all sorts of nickle/dime fees as well... machine rental (a few
>> bucks a month),  statement fees (another fee bucks a month, if you
>> choose to get a paper statement).... etc etc.
>>
>> But those nickle and dime fees pale to the % of ticket charged for every
>> transaction.
>>
>> And, no, they can't give a cash discount.  Its against Visa/MC's policy.
>>  But my intent wasn't to cry foul and start a riot, only to point out
>> the double-standard.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jay
>>
>> Sent from my Android phone... so ignore the typpos...
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ellen Roskovich [gussie443 at hotmail.com]
>> Received: Friday, 07 Oct 2011, 1:15pm
>> To: jborden at datawedge.com [jborden at datawedge.com]; vision2020 at moscow.com
>> [vision2020 at moscow.com]
>> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Sangria and Transparency
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope you're REALLY sure about that "going rate". . . also, aren't
>> there "other" fees attached to doing business accepting credit cards?
>> Like the "lease" fee for use of the swipe device?   Seems like I
>> remember a whole plethora of bank charges at the end of the month.  I
>> felt like my pocket was being picked by my bank on a regular basis.
>>
>> Don't know if they actually can charge a surcharge. . . . I wanted to,
>> but was told I couldn't.  However, it might be o.k. to give a discount.
>> But that could backfire on you also.  After all, if you give a 2.9%
>> discount you run the risk of being branded as a "cheapskate".  Sometimes
>> you can't win.
>>
>> Don't want you to paint a very simplistic view of doing business that
>> might cast doubt without cause.
>>
>> Ellen A. Roskovich
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 22:12:47 -0700
>> From: jborden at datawedge.com
>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: [Vision2020] Sangria and Transparency
>>
>>
>>
>> In a recent ?round-table? discussion with a few of my peers on a variety
>> of topics, the opinion of *more corporate transparency* emerged over and
>> over again as what?s wrong with America.  (Warning:  wine was flowing).
>>
>>
>>
>> So? my wife and I went out to a nice dinner last night at Sangria where
>> we saw a note paper-clipped in their menu.
>>
>>
>>
>> I forget the *exact* phrasing, but the note said something along the
>> lines of:
>>
>>
>>
>> ?As of September 10th, the menu prices listed will reflect a cash price,
>> and a 2.9% surcharge will be added for any order that is paid for by
>> credit card.  [Something something about fees].  Please help us fight
>> the evil corporations that want to take money out of Moscow by paying in
>> cash!?
>>
>>
>>
>> Again? it?s not word-for-word, but that?s the gist of the message.
>>
>>
>>
>> So? interesting notes, since I happen to know a thing or twelve about
>> the credit card industry.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sangria has actually raised their prices, but managed to jump on the
>> hate-wagons at large still blame larger ?corporate America? in the
>> process.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1)      The current ?going rate? (cost) to a merchant such as Sangria
>> for a swiped Visa/MC credit card is ~1.5%.
>>
>> a.       American Express charges 3.5% for their merchant fees, but
>> Sangria doesn?t accept Amex (and also why many merchants don?t accept
>> Amex).
>>
>> 2)      Since Sangria is only charged ~1.5%, but their surcharge is
>> 2.9%, they are now making an additional 1.4% on every single credit card
>> swipe taken at the restaurant.
>>
>> 3)      In addition, every transaction that Sangria can push to cash via
>> their little note is now saving (making) an additional 1.5% on every
>> single transaction, since it?s a merchant cost they no longer have to
>> pay.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bottom line:  on every single transaction, Sangria is now making a
>> little more money.
>>
>>
>>
>> The part that bothers me isn?t that Sangria is making more money? (as
>> I?ve said before, I?m a ?for profit? individual)? what bothers me is
>> that they choose to make a larger enterprise the whipping boy for their
>> own profit.
>>
>>
>>
>> In my opinion? they should either drop the dig in their menu insert
>> about helping them stick it to the larger banks? *or* they should make
>> their surcharge only equal to their merchant fees.
>>
>>
>>
>> But not both.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jay
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 18:26:36 -0700
>> From: "Jay Borden" <jborden at datawedge.com>
>> To: <ophite at gmail.com>, <gussie443 at hotmail.com>
>> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sangria and Transparency
>> Message-ID: <005501cc855a$05b35e36$020ba8c0 at DataWedge.local>
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>>
>> No... I'm not 'pissed'.
>>
>> I'm only bothered by one company complaining of being  'fleeced' by
>> their vendor while they themselves are engaging in a similar practice
>> with their customers.
>>
>> If the public at large is crying for more transparency... well...
>> there's a local dose.
>>
>> Fees or no, I have every intention of continuing to eat there... I'm a
>> sucker for their pan-fried noodles.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>> Sent from my Android phone... so ignore the typpos...
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ellen Roskovich [gussie443 at hotmail.com]
>> Received: Friday, 07 Oct 2011, 4:16pm
>> To: ophite at gmail.com [ophite at gmail.com]; jborden at datawedge.com
>> [jborden at datawedge.com]
>> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com [vision2020 at moscow.com]
>> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Sangria and Transparency
>>
>>
>>
>> Very well put, Andreas. . . . wish vision2020 had a "like" button.
>>
>> Ellen A. Roskovich
>>
>>> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 14:19:21 -0600
>>> From: ophite at gmail.com
>>> To: jborden at datawedge.com
>>> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sangria and Transparency
>>>
>>> I see. So, you're pissed at the small businessman that makes you
>>> dinner, but not at the financial industry that merely takes their
>>> money and runs.
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 20:19:16 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>> To: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Subject: [Vision2020] Coeur d'Alene Public Hearing on Redistricting
>> Message-ID: <259d088895dc9370e0504a3467c480be.squirrel at secure.fsr.com>
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>> Greetings Visionaires -
>>
>> On October 6th the Idaho Citizen Commission for Reapportionment held a
>> public hearing in Coeur d?Alene.  Among those in attendance from Latah
>> County that provided comments to the commission were:
>>
>> Susan Peterson, Latah County Clerk
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPPlXuc_XPM
>>
>> Gresham Bouma
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01Tk79jAeL0
>>
>> Rep. Shirley Ringo
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5BkJBew8c8
>>
>> Paula Bauer
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaFmCX1YAOo
>>
>> Seeya at the Homecoming Parade, V-peeps.
>>
>> As for right now . . .
>>
>> "I'm going, I'm going where the water tastes like wine
>> I'm going where the water tastes like wine
>> We can jump in the water, stay drunk all the time."
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to
>> change
>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
>>
>> - Author Unknown
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 05:55:00 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>> To: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Cc: Kathy Judson <ponysnpups at gmail.com>, Friends of the Clearwater
>>    <foc at friendsoftheclearwater.org>, Fritz Knorr <fritzknorr at gmail.com>,
>>    Harvey Neese <waco34tx at hotmail.com>, Jeanne McHale
>>    <jeannemchale at hotmail.com>, Marilyn Beckett
>>    <marilynbeckett at gmail.com>, Joann Muneta <Jmuneta at uidaho.edu>,
>> Friends
>>    of the Palouse Ranger District <fprd09 at gmail.com>, Helen Yost
>>    <helen.yost at vandals.uidaho.edu>
>> Subject: [Vision2020] Call the Forest Service
>> Message-ID: <a550097687f7c3a892cb30283760549c.squirrel at secure.fsr.com>
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>> Courtesy of the Letters section of today's (October 8, 2011)
>> Moscow-Pullman Daily News with thanks to Marilyn Beckett.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Call the Forest Service
>>
>> There are few things as confusing and annoying as the Lochsa Land
>> Exchange. One thing is clear - the exchange involves disposal of
>> valuable
>> public land when federal assets (and lands) are more valuable given the
>> state of the economy, shifting markets and climate.
>> Communities in Idaho have depended on the U.S. Forest Service for
>> seasonal
>> jobs, collaboration with our universities, and a dependable employment
>> base of educated professionals who support them. There was once pride in
>> "Caring for the Land and Serving the People." We looked to the Forest
>> Service as the highest caliber of public land management. Contrast that
>> to
>> what we know about industrial timber throughout history.
>>
>> There has been disintegration of the Forest Service over the last
>> several
>> decades. The reasons are a complex weave of events and ideologies, but
>> the
>> bottom line is that unless we want to privatize our national forests, we
>> must fight to ensure the Forest Service remains viable.
>>
>> The land exchange represents a knockout blow to the Forest Service in
>> Idaho, and has implications for the West in general. As Congress is
>> saying
>> "no" to sales of surplus federal property, the Forest Service is
>> proposing
>> to trade large tracts of Idaho public land to a limited liability
>> corporation with no loyalties, unless it's to a Timber Investment
>> Management Organization.
>>
>> We all know about TIMOs and Real Estate Investment Trusts - based
>> elsewhere and traded on the stock exchange for the highest return to
>> investors. Millions in assets are necessary to be a qualified investor.
>> This is not you, me or most of public land ownership.
>>
>> It's up to us to stop the effort to destroy the mission of the Forest
>> Service. Call Clearwtater/Nez Perce National Forest Supervisor Rick
>> Brazell at (208) 983-1950. Tell him to take no action on the Lochsa Land
>> Exchange.
>>
>> Marilyn Beckett
>> Moscow
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Seeya at the homecoming parade, Moscow.
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to
>> change
>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
>>
>> - Author Unknown
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 07:45:56 -0700
>> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>> To: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Subject: [Vision2020] Caturday (October 8, 2011)
>> Message-ID: <000501cc85c8$fd127360$f7375a20$@com>
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>>
>> Courtesy of the New Haven Independent (New Haven, Connecticut) at:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/she_was_determin
>> ed_to_rescue_that_cat/id_40914
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> She Was Determined to Rescue the Cat
>>
>>
>>
>> Stuck inside a subterranean pipe, the kitten howled. But it wouldn't
>> come
>> out. Lt. Holly Wasilewski knew she wouldn't be able to sleep that night
>> if
>> the feline remained there.
>>
>>
>>
>> So began an hour-plus-long drama in Kimberly Square.
>>
>>
>>
>> It began around 7:30 p.m. Wednesday. A woman approached two officers to
>> report hearing a kitten cry from somewhere below Lamberton Street by
>> Kimberly Avenue.
>>
>>
>>
>> The officers knew to call Wasilewski, the Hill's top cop. She has three
>> cats
>> herself, two of them rescues from the animal shelter. She's known for
>> having
>> a soft touch for critters in general.
>>
>>
>>
>> Wasilewski rushed over from the substation blocks away. By that point
>> the
>> cat was howling from down in a storm drain.
>>
>>
>>
>> It was clear the cops would need a ladder to retrieve the cat.
>> Wasilewski
>> called the fire department. While waiting for the crew from Howard
>> Avenue to
>> send over Engine 11, a ladder truck, she picked up a can of cat food.
>> She
>> then stopped by Gem Liquors to obtain an empty Corona box.
>>
>>
>>
>> Engine 11 arrived within minutes. The cops and now the firefighters
>> present
>> could see just a speck of gray down in the pipe; the cat had receded
>> somewhere.
>>
>>
>>
>> The firefighters removed the grating and pumped some of the water out of
>> the
>> drain. (There wasn't much to begin with.) Then firefighter Phil Gonzalez
>> climbed down a narrow pole ladder to the bottom of the drain, about five
>> feet. The cat had scooted into a pipe in the wall. Gonzalez scooped out
>> a
>> piece of the cat food, threw it into the pipe. The cat kept crying. It
>> didn't move.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gonzalez returned to the street. Wasilewski decided to give it a try
>> herself.
>>
>>
>>
>> "I went down there to take a look. I have cats of my own; I know one of
>> my
>> cats is afraid with certain males. I've had success rescuing other
>> animals.
>> I was the one who was really pushing the issue; I wanted the cat out."
>>
>>
>>
>> She ended up standing in the muck for a good hour.  She bent over, tried
>> coaxing the cat to come out. No luck. She tried praying. That didn't
>> help
>> either.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lt. Blakesless suggested a little pole might help. He went back to the
>> firehouse to retrieve a metal pole that'd been lying as scrap in the
>> back
>> for months. The firefighters cut off a piece of the pole,  attached a
>> string
>> to the end in a loop, handed it to Wasilewski.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bending "as far as I could," Wasilewski maneuvered the pole "as far as I
>> could." it was awkward; she was also relying on a flashlight to see the
>> cat.
>> The space was tight; but she got part of the loop on the kitten. Then
>> the
>> cat, a good six feet away, wiggled out of the loop. It remained frozen
>> in
>> place.
>>
>>
>>
>> After another attempt, the firefighters cut a somewhat larger piece of
>> the
>> pole, some seven feet long.
>>
>>
>>
>> That was tougher to maneuver in the tight space in the drain, especially
>> since the pole obviously didn't bend. But it reached farther in, which
>> was
>> crucial. Wasilewski this time got the loop fully around the kitten's
>> neck.
>>
>>
>>
>> As Wasilewski pulled, the kitten escaped again. But it was closer now.
>>
>>
>>
>> Wasilewski asked the firefighters to put some duct tape around the loop
>> to
>> stiffen it. That did the trick. On the third try, the loop stayed around
>> the
>> kitten's neck.
>>
>>
>>
>> Now Wasilewski worried the cat would choke as she pulled it toward her.
>> The
>> loop was getting tighter. And the cat was panicking.
>>
>>
>>
>> Finally Wasilewski had the cat in her arms. It didn't fight her.
>>
>>
>>
>> "I'm coming up!" Wasilewski called as she, slowly, straightened. The cat
>> relaxed. "It knew at that point it was being rescued."
>>
>>
>>
>> She handed the grayish tiger kitten to one of the officers above, who
>> placed
>> it in the Corona box. Then Wasilewski called the animal shelter, which
>> didn't have room. She took the kitten to the veterinary hospital on
>> State
>> Street, which also couldn't take in the kitten. But the folks there did
>> give
>> the kitten a bath, washing away its fleas.
>>
>>
>>
>> Wasilewski took the kitten home-just for the night. She said she
>> couldn't
>> permanently take on a fourth cat. As it was, she had the kitten sleep in
>> her
>> bed, away from Shane, Bella, and Pumpkin. Especially Shane, who's "kind
>> of a
>> bully."
>>
>>
>>
>> The kitten slept well. "My other cats weren't too happy. They were
>> growling
>> and hissing this morning," Wasilewski reported.
>>
>>
>>
>> She brought the cat to the police station, where one colleague, Lt. Jeff
>> Hoffman, offered to adopt it. Then Hoffman started sneezing. He's not
>> sure
>> if he'll adjust to the cat, or need to find it a new home. But for now,
>> at
>> least, it's out of the drain-and cared for.
>>
>>
>>
>> "I think I'll be all right," Hoffman reported Thursday afternoon. "It's
>> going to be my son's first pet. I think I'll tough it out."
>>
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>> Seeya at the homecoming parade, Moscow.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>>
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
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