[Vision2020] Rick Perry's Newest Problem
Paul Rumelhart
godshatter at yahoo.com
Tue Oct 4 07:29:48 PDT 2011
Of course I'm not saying that they shouldn't be offended or insulted.
I'm saying that shouldn't be enough to force the people who named the
place to have to change it, either through the law or through social
pressure. Can't we live in a world that has things others find
offensive? People fight to keep books containing material that others
find offensive from being banned, why is it different with mascots or
place names?
Paul
On 10/03/2011 09:50 PM, Sunil Ramalingam wrote:
> Paul,
>
> Just so I'm clear, are you saying that African-Americans, or anyone
> else, should not be offended or insulted by someone naming their place
> "Niggerhead?"
>
> Is that it?
>
> Sunil
>
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> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 21:38:31 -0700
> From: godshatter at yahoo.com
> To: kfreitag at roadrunner.com
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Rick Perry's Newest Problem
>
>
> White males are constitutionally unable to understand any aspect of
> racism, sexism or discrimination. It's true. They can't dance, either.
>
> I still think it's a bad idea to continue this Political Correctness
> path that we're on.
>
> Paul
>
> On 10/03/2011 08:43 PM, Kris Freitag wrote:
>
> Paul,
> I think that's pretty easy for a white male to say.
> Kris
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Paul Rumelhart <mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>
> *To:* Tom Hansen <mailto:thansen at moscow.com> ; Kenneth Marcy
> <mailto:kmmos1 at frontier.com>
> *Cc:* vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, October 03, 2011 9:23 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Rick Perry's Newest Problem
>
> My sometimes roundabout way of making a point isn't endearing
> me to some of the readership out there in Viz-land, so I'll
> just come out and make my point. Which is that almost
> everything is offensive to someone on some level, and those
> things that are not currently offensive may become offensive
> in the future because language and culture changes. We have
> two choices as I see it - either we whitewash everything to
> the point that we might as well not have mascots or place
> names more descriptive than "Idaho Creek 1347", or we grow a
> thicker skin and not get so worked up about these kinds of
> things.
>
> Paul
>
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> *From:* Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
> <mailto:thansen at moscow.com>
> *To:* Kenneth Marcy <kmmos1 at frontier.com>
> <mailto:kmmos1 at frontier.com>
> *Cc:* "vision2020 at moscow.com" <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>
> <vision2020 at moscow.com> <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, October 3, 2011 9:08 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Rick Perry's Newest Problem
>
> Mr. Rumelhart -
>
> If victims of bear/cougar attacks or descendants of fourth- or
> fifth-century Roman ancestry feel disrespected by the
> University of California (Berkeley) mascot . . . or the
> Washington State University mascot . . . or the University of
> Idaho mascot . . . like us, they are free to exercise their
> first amendment right and loudly (and proudly) express their
> discomfort with those mascots.
>
> Tom "not holding his breath" Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:49, Kenneth Marcy <kmmos1 at frontier.com
> <mailto:kmmos1 at frontier.com>> wrote:
>
> > On Monday, October 03, 2011 07:26:10 AM Paul Rumelhart wrote:
> >> It makes you wonder if someday descendants of the people
> murdered by an
> >> ancient East Germanic tribe when they sacked Rome and
> Carthage might
> >> someday look in horror upon a small college town in Idaho
> that had the
> >> gall to name their sports team after their killers.
> >
> > The biggest problem with the Vandals sacking Rome is that
> they didn't do it
> > often enough. It's too bad they didn't get to Nicaea and
> Constantinople in the
> > century and a quarter prior to the Roman sack, as that may
> have prevented a
> > lot of grief all around.
> >
> >> Same thing with people that have been mauled by cougars or
> bears.
> >
> > The descendants have less about which to complain in face of
> the realities of
> > their ancient enemies being hunted and heated to extinction.
> >
> >
> > Ken
> >
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