[Vision2020] Rick Perry's Newest Problem

Rosemary Huskey donaldrose at cpcinternet.com
Mon Oct 3 13:20:19 PDT 2011


Donovan, you summed up in an eloquent and brief statement what I have been
trying in a very wordy way to say.  Thank you!

Rose

 

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Donovan Arnold
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 10:13 AM
To: Paul Rumelhart; Tom Hansen; Kenneth Marcy
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Rick Perry's Newest Problem

 

Paul,

 

So what you are saying is that there is nothing wrong with the name of a
mountain that uses two gs to spell the words African descent, there is just
something wrong with people that are offended by it?

 

I disagree. I think the whole point of literacy, including cultural
literacy, is not to continue to repeat the same mistakes as our
predecessors. It is not about who has the thickest skin, it is about not
following the ideas and ways of those with the thickest skulls. 

 

Donovan Arnold

 

From: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
To: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>; Kenneth Marcy <kmmos1 at frontier.com>
Cc: "vision2020 at moscow.com" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Rick Perry's Newest Problem

My sometimes roundabout way of making a point isn't endearing me to some of
the readership out there in Viz-land, so I'll just come out and make my
point.  Which is that almost everything is offensive to someone on some
level, and those things that are not currently offensive may become
offensive in the future because language and culture changes.  We have two
choices as I see it - either we whitewash everything to the point that we
might as well not have mascots or place names more descriptive than "Idaho
Creek 1347", or we grow a thicker skin and not get so worked up about these
kinds of things.  

 

Paul

 

From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
To: Kenneth Marcy <kmmos1 at frontier.com>
Cc: "vision2020 at moscow.com" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Rick Perry's Newest Problem

Mr. Rumelhart -

If victims of bear/cougar attacks or descendants of fourth- or fifth-century
Roman ancestry feel disrespected by the University of California (Berkeley)
mascot . . . or the Washington State University mascot . . . or the
University of Idaho mascot . . . like us, they are free to exercise their
first amendment right and loudly (and proudly) express their discomfort with
those mascots.

Tom "not holding his breath" Hansen
Moscow, Idaho





On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:49, Kenneth Marcy <kmmos1 at frontier.com> wrote:

> On Monday, October 03, 2011 07:26:10 AM Paul Rumelhart wrote:
>> It makes you wonder if someday descendants of the people murdered by an
>> ancient East Germanic tribe when they sacked Rome and Carthage might
>> someday look in horror upon a small college town in Idaho that had the
>> gall to name their sports team after their killers.
> 
> The biggest problem with the Vandals sacking Rome is that they didn't do
it 
> often enough. It's too bad they didn't get to Nicaea and Constantinople in
the 
> century and a quarter prior to the Roman sack, as that may have prevented
a 
> lot of grief all around.
> 
>> Same thing with people that have been mauled by cougars or bears.
> 
> The descendants have less about which to complain in face of the realities
of 
> their ancient enemies being hunted and heated to extinction.
> 
> 
> Ken
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