[Vision2020] Freeze Community Church DVD

Darrell Keim keim153 at gmail.com
Sun Nov 6 18:16:45 PST 2011


I don't have the ability to scan.  But if you want my envelope and DVD,
contact me off list.  I'll tell you my address and you can pick it up.

 Here is how the envelope was addressed:
Return address read:  From Your Friends at, Freeze Community Church
Mailing Address:  Local, Postal Customer
The stamp area read: PRSRT STD ECRWSS, U.S. POSTAGE PAID, EDDM RETAIL.
This info was in a recatngular box.

(Thats right, no addresses were given anywhere on the envelope)

There are no postmarks of any kind on the envelope.

Comma's delineate a line break.

Nothing enclosed except the DVD.  The DVD was plastic sealed in its-I
assume-regular box.

There are no postmarks of any kind on the envelope.

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Saundra Lund <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm> wrote:

> Oh boy, Rose – do you suppose we’ll have LCSO detectives showing up at our
> doors to interrogate us again?  I do hope so – what fun that would be!****
>
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> I didn’t receive the piece of crap, but I’d already suffered through the
> “movie.”  Sniff, sniff . . . I feel left out – NOT!****
>
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> I have a favor to ask, though, of someone who did receive the DVD:  can
> you please tell us more about the mailing?  If possible, could you scan &
> post the envelope (redact your street address), any enclosed literature,
> and the DVD itself?  How do we know it was sent by Freeze Community
> Church?  I’ve heard that not all the envelopes had return addresses, which
> is curious.   Was it a bulk mailing via permit or were the envelopes
> stamped?  If stamped, was the stamp a non-profit one or a regular one?  Was
> there anything besides the DVD in the envelope?****
>
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> How about the DVD itself – was it one of those commercially produced DVDs
> (Ray Comfort is willing to sell them in bulk for $1 each) or does it look
> like something someone bootlegged or copied off the Web site or YouTube?
> There could be a copyright violation here, it seems to me, if the DVD isn’t
> a legal one.  If it isn’t a legit DVD, I certainly hope someone who
> received it has notified law enforcement.****
>
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> Hey – if anyone wants to unload their DVD, I’ll be happy to take all I can
> get!  It’s the time of year when I hang CDs/DVDs in my yard to hopefully
> discourage the bird hawks from coming around.  Reduce, reuse, recycle, you
> know, so at least the DVDs would be put to good use in my yard  J****
>
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> Saundra Lund****
>
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> *From:* vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:
> vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] *On Behalf Of *Rosemary Huskey
> *Sent:* Friday, November 04, 2011 6:30 PM
> *To:* vision2020 at moscow.com
> *Subject:* [Vision2020] Freeze Community Church****
>
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>
> Perhaps the leader of Freeze Community Church, Pastor Lloyd as he styles
> himself, could explain why unsolicited DVD’s are being mailed from his
> church.  It may be the case that he doesn’t know that this has been done
> and one of the  local right wing crackpots / Brush Fire Alliance members
> who worship there are responsible for the material.  According to the
> website, the email for the church is:  pastor at freezechurch.org , so why
> not go straight to the source to find out what, if anything, they had to do
> with it.****
>
> On the other hand, if the subject and text of his sermon on Genesis
> <http://www.freezechurch.org/page97.html> is a reflection of the mental
> acuity of the leader and congregation, I find it unlikely that they are
> involved; they clearly don’t have the mother wit to even address the
> envelope to recipients.****
>
> Rose Huskey****
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